[geeks] News server access

[Dan Debertin]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Brian Hechinger wrote:

> it sucks.  plain and simple.  you are taking something as simple and elegant
> as ATM and you are throwing this layer of garbage on top of it.

Quite.

> that's rediculous.  grabbing multiple IPs can very easily be stopped
> without using PPoE, and the tieing a service to a MAC is just the
> stupidest thing i've ever seen.

It is indeed pretty stupid.

> the non-USB ones.  so as long as you only have one IP address *WHY* is
> the IP address attached to the machine's MAC address instead of the
> bridge's IP address?  that makes no sense.

makes perfect sense. MAC addressess are tied to IP addresses via ARP. If
you're doing bridging, the router/bridge doesn't have an IP address --
it's just bridging ATM-encapsulated Ethernet frames to Ethernet.

And, just for the record, there is and has been for quite some time a
perfectly viable alternative to PPPoE in PPPoATM. It provides the same
manageability perks that ISPs like, such as authentication and protection
from IP address-swiping, without the headache and technical monstrosity
that is PPPoE.

I think the reason that ISPs are going to PPPoE is because they have
stopped providing "services". They are instead buying "solutions" that
enable them to provide those services.

<clueless sysadmin>
*point* That's our DSL box. We try not to touch it too much, and we don't
know how it works. Just reboot it every time we start to get calls, and
otherwise it just works. Isn't technology great?

</clueless sysadmin>>

Dan
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Dan Debertin
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