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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: motorolla powerstack? (Reagen B . Ward)
   2. Re: motorolla powerstack? (joshua d boyd)
   3. Re: Three heads (s at avoidant.org)
   4. Re: motorolla powerstack? (Bill Bradford)
   5. Re: motorolla powerstack? (Reagen B . Ward)
   6. Re: motorolla powerstack? (Bill Bradford)
   7. Re: motorolla powerstack? (koyote at koyote.cx)
   8. Re: motorolla powerstack? (James Sharp)
   9. Re: motorolla powerstack? (joshua d boyd)
  10. Re: motorolla powerstack? (joshua d boyd)
  11. Re: terminals (koyote at koyote.cx)
  12. Re: motorolla powerstack? (Big Endian)
  13. Re: motorolla powerstack? (joshua d boyd)
  14. Re: motorolla powerstack? (koyote at koyote.cx)
  15. Re: motorolla powerstack? (Bill Bradford)
  16. Re: motorolla powerstack? (s at avoidant.org)
  17. Re: motorolla powerstack? (Reagen B . Ward)
  18. Re: motorolla powerstack? (Bill Bradford)
  19. Re: motorolla powerstack? (joshua d boyd)
  20. Re: Three heads (s at avoidant.org)
  21. Re: Three heads (joshua d boyd)
  22. Re: motorolla powerstack? (koyote at koyote.cx)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:36:20 -0500
From: "Reagen B . Ward" <ward at zilla.nu>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 04:34:28PM -0400, joshua d boyd wrote:

> BTW, on machines like this (meaning any non intel PCI machine) that
can
> boot headless, is it possible to use plain PCI video cards?  I know
that
> some video cards from the intel worlds won't work on the Mac without
being
> reflashed (assuming that they can be reflashed), but if the machine
boots
> to a serial console, would Xfree still be able to use the cards
anyway?

My 43P works well with an ATI Mach64 from an old PC.  Only tried it a
few times when I briefly ran Linux on it.

Reagen

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:38:42 -0400
From: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 03:36:20PM -0500, Reagen B . Ward wrote:
> My 43P works well with an ATI Mach64 from an old PC.  Only tried it a
> few times when I briefly ran Linux on it.

And did it boot with the card as console, or did the card only work in
X?

--=20
Joshua D. Boyd

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:42:59 -0400
From: s at avoidant.org
Organization: Robots from Mars
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] Three heads
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

Dan Debertin wrote:

> > registered libertarian
>=20
> We can register?? Where? ;)

http://www.lp.org

Or call your state LP office.

---sambo

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:39:15 -0500
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill at mrbill.net>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 04:19:27PM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote:
> Yeah, originally they ran AIX... we had one when I was contracting at
> Objy. Not the fastest PPC boxes around, though. If you can find
Solaris/PPC
> it would be worth it to be an oddball and run that.

I've got Sol/PPC, its just in my truck which gets out of the shop
tomorrow (hopefully).

I wnat some ODDBALL hardware.  all of my stuff is sun/dec...

Bill

--=20
Bill Bradford
mrbill at mrbill.net
Austin, TX

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:41:21 -0500
From: "Reagen B . Ward" <ward at zilla.nu>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 04:38:42PM -0400, joshua d boyd wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 03:36:20PM -0500, Reagen B . Ward wrote:
> > My 43P works well with an ATI Mach64 from an old PC.  Only tried it
a
> > few times when I briefly ran Linux on it.
>=20
> And did it boot with the card as console, or did the card only work
in X?

Never tried to boot with the card as console, used the built-in video
for that.  I imagine that once Linux fired up it would work, assuming fb
was used.  I'm far from an expert, though.

Reagen

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:39:42 -0500
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill at mrbill.net>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 04:21:35PM -0400, joshua d boyd wrote:
> Didn't Bill recently mention that he had a copy?

Yeah, its unavailable till my truck gets out of the shop.  I realized
I'd left it in the back seat when I had my wreck.

Bill

--=20
Bill Bradford
mrbill at mrbill.net
Austin, TX

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Message: 7
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
From: koyote at koyote.cx
Date: 08 Aug 2001 13:46:25 -0700
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

It looks like 50pin scsi and 72 pin simms. and pci inside?

-Christof

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:45:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: James Sharp <jsharp at psychoses.org>
To: <geeks at sunhelp.org>
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

>
> I wnat some ODDBALL hardware.  all of my stuff is sun/dec...
>

I've got a AMD Athlon machine you can have.  Its being pretty freaking
oddball with me.

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:45:27 -0400
From: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 03:39:15PM -0500, Bill Bradford wrote:
> I've got Sol/PPC, its just in my truck which gets out of the shop
> tomorrow (hopefully).
>=20
> I wnat some ODDBALL hardware.  all of my stuff is sun/dec...

Buy a souped up Amiga in an ATX case with PCI slots?

--=20
Joshua D. Boyd

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:49:59 -0400
From: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 04:45:16PM -0400, James Sharp wrote:
> >
> > I wnat some ODDBALL hardware.  all of my stuff is sun/dec...
> >
>=20
> I've got a AMD Athlon machine you can have.  Its being pretty freaking
> oddball with me.

Just because it is being a jerk doesn't mean that it is an actually
oddball machine.  Besides, he already has an athlon that treats him
oddly.  He needs something that is just plain wierd.  Who wants to
design
a 33 bit computer with me?

--=20
Joshua D. Boyd

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Message: 11
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] terminals
From: koyote at koyote.cx
Date: 08 Aug 2001 13:54:15 -0700
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

I think my mail client cut something off

those are keyboards, not the whole terminal.

*sigh*

-Christof

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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:50:44 -0400
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
From: Big Endian <bigendian at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

>I turned up one of these, it appears to have everything except a=20
>hard drive/cdrom and ram.
>
>What is it?
>
>I'm debating trying to set it up, but wouldn't be averse to getting=20
>it to someone who knows how to use it.
>
>
>
>-Christof
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>GEEKS:  http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/geeks

If I'm not mistaken its a CHRP/PREP box of some form.  probably=20
604(e) based.  Its an interesting box if you can get it working but=20
ram for it would be expensive.

daniel

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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:53:15 -0400
From: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 04:50:44PM -0400, Big Endian wrote:
> >I turned up one of these, it appears to have everything except a=20
> >hard drive/cdrom and ram.
> >
> >What is it?
> >
> >I'm debating trying to set it up, but wouldn't be averse to getting=20
> >it to someone who knows how to use it.
>=20
> If I'm not mistaken its a CHRP/PREP box of some form.  probably=20
> 604(e) based.  Its an interesting box if you can get it working but=20
> ram for it would be expensive.

If it doesn't require ECC or paired memory, I probably have some around
somewhere...  Actually, I know I do.

--=20
Joshua D. Boyd

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Message: 14
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
From: koyote at koyote.cx
Date: 08 Aug 2001 13:59:15 -0700
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

if it did require ecc, wouldn't LX ram work?

-Christof

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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:03:33 -0500
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill at mrbill.net>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 04:45:16PM -0400, James Sharp wrote:
> I've got a AMD Athlon machine you can have.  Its being pretty freaking
> oddball with me.

I said oddball, not garbage.. I just got rid of my pimped-out PC
after windows finally pissed me off too many times.

Bill

--=20
Bill Bradford
mrbill at mrbill.net
Austin, TX

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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 17:10:43 -0400
From: s at avoidant.org
Organization: Robots from Mars
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

koyote at koyote.cx wrote:

> I'm debating trying to set it up, but wouldn't be averse to getting
it to someone who knows how to use it.

That would be me. (No, I'm not begging!) Out of all the massive Unix
wisdom on this list, I may be the only IBM-trained AIX admin here.

I had a roomfull of these once. If you don't end up doing anything with
it, it'd have a good home here.

---sambo

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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:09:26 -0500
From: "Reagen B . Ward" <ward at zilla.nu>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 05:10:43PM -0400, s at avoidant.org wrote:

> That would be me. (No, I'm not begging!) Out of all the massive Unix
> wisdom on this list, I may be the only IBM-trained AIX admin here.

I'm IBM-trained in AIX, but I'm far from being an AIX admin.  It's
funky.

Reagen

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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:16:25 -0500
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill at mrbill.net>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 05:10:43PM -0400, s at avoidant.org wrote:
> That would be me. (No, I'm not begging!) Out of all the massive Unix
> wisdom on this list, I may be the only IBM-trained AIX admin here.

I can admin an AIX box, but its the only "flavor" of UNIX that I *dont*
really put on my resume..=20

e.g., I can keep one up and running with enough dead chickens to wave
around, and I can get AIX installed...

Bill

--=20
Bill Bradford
mrbill at mrbill.net
Austin, TX

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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:25:00 -0400
From: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 04:16:25PM -0500, Bill Bradford wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 05:10:43PM -0400, s at avoidant.org wrote:
> > That would be me. (No, I'm not begging!) Out of all the massive Unix
> > wisdom on this list, I may be the only IBM-trained AIX admin here.
>=20
> I can admin an AIX box, but its the only "flavor" of UNIX that I
*dont*
> really put on my resume..=20
>=20
> e.g., I can keep one up and running with enough dead chickens to wave
> around, and I can get AIX installed...

I'd rather trim a lot of things off my resume, but people keep insisting
that they need to stay for now if I ever want a job. =20

I mean, what is the point on advertising VB skills if I forget
everything
when I go a month without doing VB coding?  Actually, I'd just as soon
trim everything off the skils list, since I'm not particularly skilled
or
expert with any of them.  In case anyone is wondering, the list of
skills
that aren't really is tagged after the sig.

I just wish that.  I don't know what I wish that.  Feeling restless the
past few days.

--=20
Joshua D. Boyd

Programming in Java, C/C++, perl. Alpha BASIC, Visual Basic, ASP, and
SQL
Server. Networking Windows 98, Windows NT Workstation & Server, and
Linux
using TCP/IP, NFS, and Samba.=20

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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 17:28:53 -0400
From: s at avoidant.org
Organization: Robots from Mars
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] Three heads
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

joshua d boyd wrote:

> > > registered libertarian
> >
> > We can register?? Where? ;)
>=20
> You can register libertarian the same way you registered to vote, I
> think.  If I'm wrong, then I'm probably not registered any party.

You're right, it's different than "joining the party", which is where I
sent hime with my reply. I'm both a party member and a registered voter,
though Maryland dropped the party from the rolls a few years ago because
of some technicality, so I was "demoted" to Independent.

---sambo

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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:29:37 -0400
From: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] Three heads
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 05:28:53PM -0400, s at avoidant.org wrote:
> joshua d boyd wrote:
>=20
> > > > registered libertarian
> > >
> > > We can register?? Where? ;)
> >=20
> > You can register libertarian the same way you registered to vote, I
> > think.  If I'm wrong, then I'm probably not registered any party.
>=20
> You're right, it's different than "joining the party", which is where
I
> sent hime with my reply. I'm both a party member and a registered
voter,
> though Maryland dropped the party from the rolls a few years ago
because
> of some technicality, so I was "demoted" to Independent.

I thought of going libertarian, but I just don't see another Lincoln
happening, and thought that maybe having a say in the primaries would be
usefull.  Of course, I then forgot to vote in the primaries, and I think
the other guy had dropped out before my state voted anyway.

--=20
Joshua D. Boyd

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Message: 22
To: geeks at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [geeks] motorolla powerstack?
From: koyote at koyote.cx
Date: 08 Aug 2001 14:36:02 -0700
Reply-To: geeks at sunhelp.org

Heh, I know how it goes with the resume. Some people say to=20
deprecate old ibm mainframe experience, but others say leave
it on.

And really, I'm not *that* skilled with hpux. I'm not bad, but
....

actually, it's here:

http://www.koyote.cx/resume/cnh_koyote_resume.html

I should edit it to include system engineering since that's what I
always end up doing. But I have NO training. Hell, for that matter, my
formal training is so limited I get brush offs from hr a lot.

Never not been given a job when I could get a f2f interview, though.

-Christof

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