[geeks] Re: [rescue] bahahahaha.

[Big Endian]

>On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 03:37:54AM -0600, Bill Bradford wrote:
>>  Listen to the ENTIRE thing.  Its great.
>>
>>  http://www.mrbill.net/teacher.mp3
>     [snip]
>
>Sad. This guy needs a vacation, badly. Really overwrought. That he
>starts from shouting to declaring dictatorship shows how out of control
>he is and how out of control is his classroom.

Having just graduated from a public highschool in 2000 I can say that 
unfortunately this is almost the norm.  Teachers who aren't educated 
about the computers they use begin to fall back on more primitive 
behaviors when they are out gunned by students who know are FAR more 
comfortable with the machines.  They give out rules of what you can 
and can't use the computer for, or even do with the computer (this 
kid locked the workstation, something that is quite trivial to undo, 
but the teacher didn't know that).  It follows the rise of zero 
tolerance policies(I'm not going to get started on these).

>I've been in the instructor's role at both High School and college and
>he is way off base. He should have given written policies and enforced
>them using the NT profiles. He should also have recognized that the
>machines and software will be abused and planned quick rebuilds via disk
>image- probably doing so weekly. No need to get upset, no need to argue,
>just prearrange everything. The entire scenario should have been avoided
>or defused.

I agree but it shouldn't be the teachers job.  This should be 
implemented by a team of admins and student assistants.  This stuff 
is easily automated and easily secured against all but the most 
persistent trouble makers.  I personally imaged a dozen computers a 
week one month.  I was on a team of about half a dozen students and 
we kept the network sound, added new machines, upgraded software, 
etc.  People always asked me how I got to do this stuff.  They 
weren't all bad kids at that school... some just wanted to play and 
learn but the (inane) policies at that school prevented them from 
even changing things in their own profile.  Having a dedicated 
administrator (school employee, NOT a teacher)  and a team of 
students(seniors) to do the grunt work also was highly effective at 
that school.

daniel
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