[geeks] STARBUCKS SHIT -- the name game now

[Andrew Weiss]

On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 12:11 PM, Michael A. Turner wrote:

> 	You just hit on one of my main pet peeves these days, changing a job
> name to sound like it is more important. The one I keep hearing that
> absolutely drives me into a frenzy is the ECPI adds . WTF is a 
> "Technical
> Engineer" or a "Desk Top Support Specialist"? One is hell desk, I know I
> worked their, but I cannot even begin to decide what the real world 
> term for
> a "Technical Engineer" I think we may refer to them here as "intern who
> makes cat 5 cables" but I am not sure.
> 	I cheered when the state of Texas told Microsoft that they could not
> call MCSE's engineers as to be an engineer you have to pass a state
> certification test. I wish more places would do that. Frankly I think it
> should be MCSL with the L being lackey, but then I am preaching to the 
> choir
> here.

True, although the MCSE quality should go up... the Windows 2000 MCSE 
stuff is 5 times harder.... so in general quality should improve.

> 	And as a future note, since these messages do get archived and end
> up on the internet, When I worked at my last job one of my duties was 
> to go
> through the potential hires. I was to separate the pile into three, the
> No's, the Maybes and the yeses. All of the yeses were called back, some 
> of
> the maybes got calls, depending on how bad we needed people, and the 
> no's
> were all pitched (usually by me right then). One of the things that was 
> an
> immediate NO was if I saw ECPI ANYWHERE on your resume, be it graduated 
> from
> or attending (the usual case). I believe the other managers did the 
> same,
> our experience with that school was so poor in the quality of people we 
> got
> that we couldn't take the time to fix them. We figured if you had not
> learned enough to keep ECPI off your resume, then we did not need to 
> hire
> you. Just wanted to say that to any potential candidates out their that 
> are
> searching around for a school choice before the spend their $16K.
>

I'm doing the MCSE all by my lonesome... just a book, some coffee, and a 
lamp... Why am I doing this you might ask?... well until I get an 
opportunity to do the Jr. Unix admin thing, this looks like a way to get 
some more experience under my belt... and it doesn't look like managers 
are paying attention to the fact that I hold two Cisco certs but only 
the MCP (I'm on my way, but can you believe it... all the extra Linux 
and UNIX experience plus the Cisco certs doesn't mean jack to the 
employers... they need at least an MCSE.... biggest bullshit I've ever 
heard... and when they actually tell me these things, I've been 
occasionally known to let them have it.)  So I will as what is ECPI?

Andrew