[geeks] STARBUCKS SHIT -- the name game now

[Michael A. Turner]

	When it comes to Cisco I have to agree, having a live one to play
with is a huge help. That's why I think Cisco stays so expensive for so
long, their are to many little guys waiting to snap even the old stuff up
when it gets to the lower prices so the price stays up. Luckily I got my
hands on some Cisco router simulators I plan to play with after I graduate (
~4 more weeks) that can be installed on a pc and are supposed to simulate
actually networking routers together.
	

Michael A. Turner
Systems Engineer
WHRO
michael.turner at whro.org
http://www.whro.org


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Weiss [mailto:ajwdsp at cloud9.net]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:03 PM
> To: geeks at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [geeks] STARBUCKS SHIT -- the name game now
> 
> 
> On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 02:36 PM, Michael A. Turner wrote:
> 
> > 		Now to answer your question about what ECPI is. 
> They commonly call
> > themselves "technical colleges" but they go by many names 
> these days. I 
> > am
> > sure you have seen the ads late at night for your local 
> version. The key
> > would be that you get a high paying computer job in just 18 
> months (all 
> > of
> > these adds claim this). I'm sure you recognize the breed I 
> am talking 
> > about.
> > ECPI is a fairly large brand named one in the united states.
> > 	Another thing that cracks me up about the local ECPI 
> add is the fact
> > that they ADMIT that their school is for unmotivated 
> slackers. The add 
> > is
> > presented in a "personal" testimonial format. It start out 
> with a girl
> > saying " I was going to the local college but I found the format to
> > unstructured and to long. At ECPI I was able to become a technical 
> > engineer
> > in just 18 months". Now tell me, how many employers want 
> someone who is
> > unmotivated to accomplish things on their own and are 
> unable to stick to
> > projects.
> 
> Guh... ! I do everything on my own.  (Mostly because I 
> couldn't justify 
> paying a cent more than I have to for a MS cert.)
> I could have done the CCNP and CCNA alone in hindsight, but it was 
> slightly easier doing a boot camp... (and it was free... I 
> finagled the 
> CCNA, then luck of luck our instructor got sick and cancelled in the 
> middle of the week so I took the test anyway, and rather than get a 
> refund for the course I asked for a pro-bono CCNP boot 
> camp...so I got 
> like two cert boot camps for like $3000. A $9000 savings)... The big 
> help with the boot camp was the ability to play on live 
> routers... that 
> alleviated some comfort issues with just going into the tests 
> cold from 
> previous experience and books alone.  It was also helpful because you 
> could correct where the course materials were wrong and the potential 
> huge gotchas out in the real world.
> 
> Andrew
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