THIS KICKS MORE ASS THAN ANYTHING I HAVE EVER SEEN> http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/texshop.html (sure, its just an "IDE" / frontend for TeX/LaTeX, but *wow*.. Type, hit button, boom, there's your PDF...) Every day, I lean more and more towards not touching my PC here at all.... Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill at mrbill.net Austin, TX