[geeks] Help with MCSE

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I had a teacher like that, one we could hardly understand and who was
very obviously a glorified low level MCSE, and his bad teaching is
what caused me to leave the course. I tried to learn the stuff,
reading all the books we had, but he was just not the person who
should have been teaching the course. 

When anyone, or any group he didn't like or agree with(meaning not
able to pass the MCSE without the course) asked a question he would
simply listen to the problem and walk away. This happened to me often
because of my questioning the course material. No answer, no
tutelage, just ignorance. As well, the hardware we used was
antiquated, and failing. For instance, we were supposed to learn NT 4
Server on P 166's with no working NIC's, and hard drives that failed
regularly. 24 students paid $4,400 to enter the course and we were
told that we had only paid enough to cover the teachers' salaries,
and the book costs(all the books were at least a year old), and that
their budget was not adequate for the purchase of new hardware. 

When we asked for a replacement for a dead hard drive, we were told a
request would be put in for one, and we should know in February or
March. The in class stuff ends end of March. About half the class
could afford to take the tests at $150 a piece, and all those who
passed were the ones who, from the beginning, obviously did not need
to take the course, as they knew enough to simply pay for some of the
books and read, then take the tests. 

This course has soured me on post secondary education, and is further
proof to me that it is not smart to pay $5,000, plus the costs of
living while in school, just to get certifications that mean nothing
in the real world. One last complaint I had for the course was the
great lack of anything beyond Cisco and Windows. We had 3 or 4 weeks
on Novell, and 4 or 5 days on Linux. No Sun, no real Unix education,
all of it was 'how do you make a _____ system work with a Windows
network?' and that is negligent and wrong, as I tried to point out
continually that there is a lot more out there then Windows.



Dwight Wallbridge,
Webmaster, Geek, Blogger.

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- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "alex j avriette" <avriettea at speakeasy.net>
To: <geeks at sunhelp.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 11:07 AM
Subject: [geeks] Help with MCSE


> My girlfriend is attempting to get an MCSE (which as I understand
> is  actually a set of six or seven tests). I originally thought
> when she  signed up for the series of courses, that I would be able
> to help her. I  know all the protocols and stuff underlying what
> microsoft's stuff  actually does (e.g., IMAP is not some funky
> marketing-named "exchange  protocol" or whatever). However, she was
> complaining to me today that  she was frustrated with the class and
> the professor. I thought, gee,  this should be easy.
> 
> I was way wrong. Its like a whole new language. I mean, take
> regular  network protocols and switch it all around so youre
> talking pig latin  and thats about the size of it.
> 
> "see-pee-eye-pee-tee-aye" -> tcp/ip
> 
> Below is an excerpt from this link: 
> http://polaris.umuc.edu/~lgibbons/cmit366/htmdocs/answersqmf4051.htm
>  
> 
> You work for XYZ Company as the head of network administration. The
>  company has 250 computers running Windows 2000 Professional with
> two  domain controllers running Windows 2000 Server. You have two
> assistants  that help you administer the network and the client
> machines. To make  work easier, you have created a custom MMC with
> tools that you need to  work on the machine; however, you have
> noticed that a few users have  been adding and removing snap-ins
> that you put into the custom MMC. This  needs to be corrected so
> that users cannot adjust any settings on the  MMC.
> 
> Required results: Keep users from altering the MMC.
> Optional results: Allow full access to all the snap-ins in the
> custom  MMC.
> 
> Sorry, the above link has this document in *word* format. yay
> windows.  
> 
> Anyhow, the problem I'm running into here is I can help her with
> the  protocols and understanding network topography and managing
> resources  and all that. But I cant get through this microsquish
> marketing 
> doublespeak.
> 
> She's a pretty clueful geek; where can I find information that
> would  help her pass MCSE exams from the perspective of somebody
> who doesnt buy  into the marketing?
> 
> Thanks,
> alex
> 
> 
> --
> alex j avriette, perl hacker
> avriettea at speakeasy.net
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