[geeks] FW: [rescue] UPS Recommendation

Francisco Javier Mesa-Martinez lefa at ucsc.edu
Tue Jul 22 10:57:00 CDT 2003


On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Brian Dunbar wrote:

> Francisco Javier Mesa-Martinez [mailto:lefa at ucsc.edu] on Tuesday, July 22,
> 2003 9:37 AM said;
>
> <snip>
> > So far all I hear from the pro-gun people are tangential argument (pools
> > also kill people, but they were using psychotic drugs, etc. etc...). A
> > random inanimate object killing a person is an unfortunate accident or
> > side effect, a gun killing another person is a mission accomplished. That
> > is the main difference...
>
> For me it's not an issue of how dangerous a gun is, or isn't, but how much
> control I want the State to have over my life.  That's the benefit of a free
> and open society; every person is free to act, or not act, in their own self
> interest.

I understand that, the problem is what happens when your own self
interest conflicts or interferes with someone else's self interests? That
is part of the trick, I guess...

> > > Now, didn't someone already make a Nazi reference?
>
> > I don't remember it, is this when we try to speculate how far Hitler would
> > have got if the average German would have been able to privately own guns
> > or something?
>
> You're following the script rather nicely (smile).

I guess I didn't since someone else corrected me :(... darn it.



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