[geeks] [rescue] Computerfests (was: first real server hardware) -OT
Sandwich Maker
adh at an.bradford.ma.us
Wed Apr 28 16:29:23 CDT 2004
" From: David A de Gruyl <david at bhaermandegruyl.org>
"
" * on [04-04-28 13:35] R. Lonstein wrote:
" >Don't forget that just freeing the hydrogen isn't enough. You need to
" >transport it from the source to the point of use. The obvious existing
" >tech way is to create an infrastructure and pipeline it to a
" >distribution point and then move it in a tank to get close to the use,
" >which, aside from the costs of building the distribution
" >infrastructure from scratch, means compressing it. That compression is
" >a large additional energy input even if you assume the infrastructure
" >is free.
like maybe the existing ng pipeline network?
" Actually, piplining hydrogen is generally a bad idea. Hydrogen
" molecules are _very_ small. Sealing hydrogen lines is a big problem.
" (air tight pipes are generally not hydrogen tight).
then there's hydrogen embrittlement of the steel...
" For transportation, using electricity to transport the energy is
" preferred. But entropy increases.
maybe with hvdc electricity is preferred, but otherwise you can pump
energy cheaper via ng pipelines than via wires.
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