[geeks] Seems like low-cost Cisco 10/100 switches are available

[Jonathan Katz]

On Apr 29, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Nadine Miller <velociraptor at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> nate at portents.com wrote:
>>> Cisco + Sun HME (and maybe other) NICs...many, and as recently as  
>>> '05.
>>> Cisco + Apple G4 NIC (don't recall the NIC chipset).
>> Out of curiosity, how old was the Cisco gear?  I recently read this  
>> on
>> wikipedia, but it doesn't indicate when Cisco cleaned up their act:
>> "The first version of the autonegotiation specification, IEEE  
>> 802.3u, was
>> open to different interpretations. Although most manufacturers  
>> implemented
>> this standard in one way, some others, including network giant Cisco,
>> implemented it in a different way... The debatable portions of the
>> autonegotiation specifications were eliminated by the 1998 release of
>> 802.3. This was later followed by the release of IEEE 802.3ab in  
>> 1999. The
>> new standard specified that gigabit Ethernet over copper wiring  
>> requires
>> autonegotiation."
>
> Couldn't speak to the age.  It first happened back <'01, when I  
> worked for Cisco; that was on the engineering server network, so it  
> was probably Cat5K's.  The last time it happened was at one of my  
> $gov jobs around '05 on their desktop network.  I know that it was  
> Sun (Sun Blade  with the crappy on-board IDE, pretty sure it was an  
> HME NIC) & Apple NIC specific, because the x86 box under my desk did  
> not have the same problem.  I wasn't privy to the details of the  
> Cisco side because <sarcasm>after all, senior Solaris sys admins  
> know nothing about networks.</sarcasm>
>
> Out of curiosity, for those of you who have worked in large  
> organizations where the "network" team is a complete and separate  
> entity from the "sys admin" team, has the network team ever been  
> responsive, reliable, and, in general, competent and pleasant to  
> work with?
>
> =Nadine=
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At my prior employer we had a large net and sysadmin team and we got  
along well.