[geeks] The best things in the world

Lionel Peterson lionel4287 at verizon.net
Mon Sep 15 07:40:52 CDT 2008


>From: Alloysius Mdebe <heavyj.gmbh at gmail.com>
>Date: 2008/09/15 Mon AM 12:38:50 EDT
>To: The Geeks List <geeks at sunhelp.org>
>Subject: Re: [geeks] The best things in the world

>On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Shannon Hendrix <shannon at widomaker.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 13, 2008, at 17:15 , Jonathan C. Patschke wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Jochen Kunz wrote:
>>>
>>>> [FreeBSD]
>>>>>
>>>>> Starting with 5.x they abandoned reason and went on a massive
>>>>> feature bloat just like Linux did with 2.6.
>>>>
>>>> That bad? Sad. (The last FreeBSD I saw closer was around 4. I used
>>>> 2.2.18 for a long time.)
>>>
>>> Reports of FreeBSD's bloat tend to be wildly overstated.  This is from a
>>> fresh "everything" install of FreeBSD 7:
>>
>> It's not binary our source size I was referring too.
>>
>> I'm talking about feature and change bloat.
>>
>> After 4.x they needed to focus on speed, SMP, and bug fixes.
>>
>> Instead they made huge changes that were obviously way too much to do at
>> once, and FreeBSD was a mess for years afterward, still is in some areas.
>>
>> I found FreeBSD unusable until release 7, and even that has issues.
>
>Hello peoples,
>
>You may find now that VM can be downlaoded free. Has excellent SMP
>support, many bug fixes, and very fast. What happened, in early 90s,
>is 80486 was released and everyone was stuck with ESAME machines with
>nothing to do so people say to IBM "hey ibm why no free os for my
>machine i'm trying to balance my accounts every night and there's
>people with quattro pro kicking my ass" and 15 years later they
>released one for z10 so they can try it out to see how quickly they
>can do spreadsheets. I think the big reason why they didn't have one
>in early nineteen 90s because spreadsheets required the extra bit
>80486 had which IBM had to license from Intel.

Alloysius:

What? I can't make sense out of this - you went from a conversation about NetBSD to IBM VM, Quattro Pro and something called ESAME? I'm not following you...

Thanks,

Lionel



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