[SunRescue] Re: [Re: [SunRescue] Re: [Re: [SunRescue] What should I look for?]]

[Arnach]

Well, unless youve got a problem, trial versions are as good as the full
versions...with a little coaxing.

"D.A. Muran-de Assereto" <dmuran at pinacolada.net> wrote:
> Where? I can find the trial versions, but nothing free other than that.
> 
> Dave Muran-de Assereto
> 
> ********************* Aude Sapere! **************************
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Arnach <arnach at netscape.net>
> To: <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 1999 23:07
> Subject: [SunRescue] Re: [Re: [SunRescue] What should I look for?]
> 
> 
> > SunSOFT Compilers are available free from www.sun.com 70mb download...use
> > something that supports resume :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Aaron Finley
> >
> >
> > "Paolo Di Francesco" <paipai at tin.it> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > I cannot buy an "old" ATI card (Rage IIc). Noone sells it anymore.
> Now
> > > > > everyone has the TNT2 based card, or VoodooIII card, but no old ATI
> > > > > cards.
> > > >
> > > > Check mail-order stores.  It's not that old of a card, and they still
> make
> > > > them.
> > >
> > > Hum.. my problem was to find one of these, here in Italy. Noone wants to
> > > import PCI video card. The PC market is really strong here....
> > >
> > > > > Yes, but they cost and people does not want to pay for it... 8(
> > >
> > > > This is true, and the high-end 3D market is not Sun's main graphics
> focus.
> > > > The CAD market probably is a better bet for them.
> > >
> > > Yep... I would have and SGI here close to me... 8(
> > >
> > > > > Good news for me! But are you using commercial compilers? Have you
> using
> >
> > > > > gcc? I have an AXi but I don't know how much fast is compared to the
> > > > > intel world. Any performance test?
> > > >
> > > > Mostly raw SPARC V9 assembly with heavy use of VIS.  gcc is
> wonderfully
> > > > portable but on an Ultra it's quite poor at generating tight code
> (makes
> > > > sense as even the egcs SPARC optimizer isn't improved much over the
> > > > original gcc 2 optimizer).  Sun's SPARCompilers do a much better job
> > >
> > > Yes they do. But they cost too much for me... Remember: I am a student
> > > but I cannot buy at student prices. Why? Sun-Italy sells only to
> > > Universities, not to students....
> > >
> > > > (especially on fp-intensive code) but I can still squeeze out an extra
> 30%
> > > > by coding the critical parts in assembly.
> > >
> > > What books have you used. I have bought the SparcV9 manual, and I have
> > > started reading it. Onestly I don't know if I have time to start
> > > "playing" with assembly.
> > > Currently my projects must run on Linux/Unix mixed enviroinments. So I
> > > cannot use assembly code...
> > > What project are you working on?
> > >
> > > What debugger do you use?
> > >
> > > > It all depends on which CPU you're using.  The 270MHz/256k CPU is
> fairly
> > > > poor due to small cache size, but the 333MHz and up with 2mb cache
> really
> > > > scream.  If you're doing memory-intensive fp work it's hard to beat an
> > > > Ultra for the price.
> > >
> > > 300Mhz version 8)
> > >
> > > It has a good price/performance ratio.
> > >
> > > (And it was the only avaible at memoryx... ^___^)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ciao Ciao
> > >        Paolo Di Francesco
> > >    _
> > >  ->B<-   All Recycled Bytes Message ...
> > >    ~
> > >
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