[SunRescue] 3/60 crate

Paul Khoury pkhoury3 at earthlink.net
Wed Mar 1 17:52:24 CST 2000


>Sure. The price was at $12000 for a monochrome and $18000 for a color station.
>
I thought they were more.

What about the 3/75 when it came out, with 8MB of RAM and SCSI?

>>best m68k machine I've ever owned hands down.
>
>I like the 3/260 and 3/470 too. But these are big VME monsters...
>Yeah, the 3/60 is surely the best desktop Sun3 and beats a lot of
>machines from other vendors...
>
>>Then again, I also like my Mac Quadra 610...
>
>Ah, there is a difference liking a Mac (who doesn't?!?) and liking
>a Sun... you like the Mac for its extraordinary ggod GUI and you
>like the Sun for the hardware AND the Unix.

Damn right!!!
>
>>And NetBSD runs real sweet on it - I think current uptime is like 10 days...
>
>I've tried NetBSD with every new major revision. In the meantime 
>it runs great on the desktop boxen like the 3/60 but it still
>sucks a lot on the VME machines.
>
Such as...

>Nothing stops me from running SunOS 4.1.1 and i have uptimes of
>hundreds of days... on busy machines!
>

I wouldn't mind trying it, but I have no tape drives for it, and would prefer
to install or boot over the network.

>>...and am gonna give an extra 3/75 to a friend...
>
>The 3/75 is quite rare compared to the 3/60. I have only one
>3/75. But seven 3/60...
>
It is?  Wow...  I even have monitors for both (but took them off).


>>Where's that?
>Have a look at http://home.k-town.de/~pkoch/en/tips+tricks.html
>and snoop thru the articles regarding the 3/60...
>I have high-res pictures of the mainboard where you can see these
>things. Click on the low-res pictures!
>
>>And the 3/60 was like 4 or 5 MIPS, right?
>
>Nope, the 68020 at 20 MHz has about 3 MIPS. At 25 MHz maybe 3.5 MIPS.
>The 68000 at 8 MHz in my Atari 1040ST has about 1 MIPS.
>To have 4-5 MIPS you need a 3/260. The crown is the 3/470 with 
>about 7 MIPS.
>
Ouch.

I know the 3/75 is 2 MIPS - wow, twice the speed of a Vax 11/780 (a friend
had one of these in college, along with a PDP-11/20).

Paul








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