[SunRescue] we're all just spoiled (was: re: IPC)

Mon Oct 23 23:43:39 CDT 2000

I could be wrong about the 4MB cache, but I thought it went at least that
high.  It's been a while since I looked though.

-Cyrus

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 nick at snowman.net wrote:

> I thought they only went up to 2meg, and that's only up to 550mhz,
> anything beyond that is a renamed coppermine (256k).
> 	Nick
> 
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Cyrus M. Reed wrote:
> 
> > IIRC, the 1meg cache chips only run on certain *expensive* (well, maybe
> > not anymore) motherboards.  I know my PR440FX board won't.  It 1MB
> > cache does run at full CPU speed though.  The new Xeon chips have up to
> > 4MB of cache at CPU speed as well, IIRC, but they are significantly more
> > expensive.  512k cache chips can be had for around $75 (try
> > www.compgeeks.com), and they should work in the same boards that the 256k
> > cache chips do.
> > 
> > -Cyrus
> > 
> > On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Ken Hansen wrote:
> > 
> > > Bill,
> > > I'm still waiting for a parts update on these $89 wonders... ;^)
> > > 
> > > Seriously, I've noticed recently that 200 Mhz PPro CPUs w/1 Meg cache are
> > > selling for about $130... Not that Iwould suggest you dump your perfectly
> > > good PPro 200 CPUs with less cache for these, but that is one *heck* of a
> > > lot of CPU for $130... The cache, IIRC runs at system speed, and may be the
> > > largest on-chip cache size available in X86-land...
> > > 
> > > HighTech Cafe has these CPUs for about this price.
> > > 
> > > Bill, did you take note of any of the system parts when you built this up -
> > > was the adaptec SCSI built-in or a PCI card? How is the 32 Meg RAM
> > > configured - one SIMM? Ram expansion slots? What OS are you running on your
> > > little box? Are you running IDE or SCSI HD (it looks like IDE based on the
> > > size/cost cited below)? Did you get the Kingston SCSI sled for $10 more?
> > > etc.
> > > 
> > > I promised some friends P133+ machines, and I'm thinking I might just get a
> > > few of these to satisfy that promise (I *could* part with my misc.
> > > Frankenstein boxes, but they are not that stable...).
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Ken
> > > 
> > > (PS I just wrapped up that Proxim RangeLan/2 card for you - it will be in
> > > the mail tomorrow!)
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bill Bradford" <mrbill at mrbill.net>
> > > To: <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:55 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [SunRescue] we're all just spoiled (was: re: IPC)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 04:43:32PM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > 
> > > > I'm using a 200Mhz PPro box right now at home that cost me $89 with 32mb
> > > > of RAM - I added a 6.4gig HD (~50), Matrox Millenium 4mb PCI video
> > > > card ($17), and an old IDE CD-ROm drive I had laying around ($10).
> > > > The only other thing I added was another 96mb RAM, which I traded some
> > > > other parts for.  So, my total expense on this box was around $175.
> > > > Monitor?  I've got a 14" Packard Bell that does 800x600.  Keyboard and
> > > > mouse I dug out of my junk drawer.
> > > >
> > > > So, instead of going out and blowing at least $500 on what some people
> > > > would call a "decent" home PC box, I spent around $200 on a PPro200
> > > > (overclocked to 233 "just because") that does the job just fine, including
> > > > Netscape, SSS, and MP3s (the only things I "need" a computer for at home).
> > > 
> > > 
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