[rescue] Mac Appliance
Dave McGuire
rescue at sunhelp.org
Fri Aug 3 10:34:45 CDT 2001
On August 3, Mike Dombrowski wrote:
> >designing chipsets that drive 2 CPUs well; and MSFT is slowly figuring
> out
> >how to write SMP code...
>
> Home PC's don't need SMP.
Wow, thanks for deciding that for the rest of the world.
*I* will decide what my computing needs are, thank you.
> NT has been doing SMP for years. For that
...and NT has been too unstable to use for anything important for
years, too. Go figure.
> matter let's beat down NetBSD and OpenBSD because AFAIK, they don't
> have SMP support yet.
NetBSD has SMP on Alpha, VAX, and Intel now. SPARC is just around
the corner.
I feel the need to explain something about NetBSD with regard to
things like SMP. Linux and FreeBSD, despite < 1% arguments to the
contrary, really usefully only run on one platform. It's relatively
easy to do something like that on one platform. NetBSD runs on FORTY
different platforms, supporting like A DOZEN different [incompatible]
processor architectures. Now that 90% of the SMP stuff is done in an
architecture-independent way, the other 10% need only be done for the
other processors. As a case in point, NetBSD/vax went SMP a matter of
weeks after NetBSD/i386 did.
#define RANT
#ifdef RANT
And don't even get me started about OpenBSD. It exists because a guy
with an attitude problem got kicked out of the NetBSD core group
because he couldn't get along with anyone. Now granted they've done
some great work, but still...OpenBSD = NetBSD + Theo's Patches.
In a world where "turn off everything in the default
/etc/inetd.conf" can be advertised as "proactively secure", them's the
facts, boys.
#endif
> Hrm, so graphics accelerators like Geforce don't count? Nor sound
> accelerators like SB Live? Intel CPUs are so stinking powerful that
> they can simply brute force everything. God, that NeXT, they would
"Fast-clocked" != "powerful". Clock speed isn't a measure of
computing performance.
I have a nine-year-old machine in my computer room whose primary clock
is 33MHz per processor. Yes, thirty-three. For floating-point
applications, you have to clock an Intel processor at like 500MHz to
get similar performance.
> never put no hardware in a device and make the CPU do all the work
> would they? Never, they'd never do anything like that. Wait, they did,
> NeXT Laser Printer.
Though I don't agree with the idea, we must understand why they did
it. NeXTs have a postscript display system...Why interpret the
postscript twice? Not trying to be agumentative, but I it's an
important point.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
Laurel, MD
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