[rescue] Script Kiddies (Was: FW: Sun Microsystems...)

[Derrick D. Daugherty]

It's rumored that around Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 06:01:33PM -0400
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:

> profs want you to know.  Back in, say, the 1970s, computer courses
> were far less common...and computer people learned what they NEEDED to
> know...often by *doing* rather than by rote memorization which may or
> may not be accompanied by any level of understanding.
> 
>   I'm not quite sure how to put it...but it seems that computer people
> are much more "boilerplate" nowadays than they used to be.  Their
> skillsets seem to be converging over time to what is considered to be
> the commercial mainstream...whether the commercial mainstream is worth
> a damn or not.  Am I making any sense here?

Complete sense.  I think both points are explained to me by the
increases in technology.  "computer experts" of now don't need to know
all that stuff.  They only need to know how to use certain pieces of s/w
to make other things "just work."  It's due to advances, everything
auto-senses and configures it self..there's no more recompiling of the
kernel to tweak things (I'm thinking SunOS) There's no more fiddling
with i/o's interrupts (dos -> winN).  The people of now don't _need_ to
know it..and they lack the desire or inclination to learn.  _But_ just
recently I've met a really bright UT phsyics major..he's 19 and loves to
tinker and break shit jsut to see how it works.  I know of another such
19 y/o in nyc..while they're scattered, they difintely exist.

Hell, I didn't know all of you existed until about four months ago..it's
odd wandering through life knowing there have to be similar geeks out
there but where the hell are they.

Also, you're "commercial mainstream" comment can be lent to large
corps..oohh..say M$ "Certification"  That means shit, but it's "industry
standard"  I'm similar disenchanged with cisco's certs, unless its' a
CCIE.  Our NOCC had several ccna/ccdp and more than two of them have
actually responded to me with "what's traceroute"  when I asked what the
output looked like.   Certified my ass.

I've never worked with anyone else that has to know _exactly why_
something went awry..or exactly _how and why_  X action(s) fixed it.
Most people just seem to want it to work, as soon as it does, who cares
why.  I think this also defines who's satisfied with EMC support and who
is not..those that just want it to work and don't care how, like
them..those that want an explination, hate them.  well..this probably
goes for any support as I've never been satisfied.

civilization coddles the ignorant..if you're going to drink paint
thinner you deserve to die.  me a misanthrope?  naaah ;D

i'm ranting now..

^D