[rescue] FDDI card

[Amy]

(not snipped for clarity)

would you mind calming down before you end up blowing a testicle all over
the poor guy for holding a differing opinion?

jesus, dave, this isnt usenet... you can disagree without throwing insults
left and right.


--a


On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Dave McGuire wrote:

> On February 25, Kenneth Dunn wrote:
> > > You mean I have to explain myself instead of just mindlessly bashing
> > > things?  Darn it.  Okay...here goes.
> > >
> > > They're just not designed for it.
> >
> > Sure.... that is why the IBM x200 and no-name Pentium III at work
> > has been up for months at a time, only coming down for software
> > upgrades.
>
>   If I try hard enough, I can haul lumber in a volkswagen beetle.
> That doesn't automagically retroactively make it designed for that
> task, nor does it make it GOOD for that task.
>
> > > 2) They don't handle loads very gracefully.  Sure, you can sort of make up
> > > for this by getting the latest & greatest 340982304983Thz processor...they
> > > can do 1 thing REALLY fast, but when you start making them task swap &
> > > context switch, they fall on their face.
> >
> > Can't say I've noticed that happening much outside of Windows. Ok
> > Linux boxes with ATA hard drives too.
>
>   Then you haven't been paying attention.
>
> > > 3) That whole keyboard & monitor thing.  Sun/Alpha/SGI/etc machines all
> > > have BUILT-IN serial consoles.  The closest thing you can get to a true
> > > serial console on a PeeCee is the PC Weasel, but all that really does is
> > > emulate the monitor & keyboard...turns it into a serial stream.
> >
> > If you're not accustomed to serial consoles then it is a non-issue.
>
>   BULLSHIT.  Whether you're accustomed to serial consoles or not, if
> you're managing a machine that's three thousand miles away, and you
> need to get to the console, it makes NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE what you're
> accustomed to.
>
> > For small businesses and small departments PeeCee servers make
> > perfect sense.
>
>   Boy am I glad we don't work for the same company.
>
> > 	+ Inexpensive compared to serious server hardware
>
>   You get what you pay for.
>
> > 	+ more competition among vendors selling such equipment
>
>   If you're talking about taiwanese people screaming at you as you
> walk through a computer show, sure, I'll agree.  Otherwise, Sun and
> SGI send out just as many begging, ass-kissing salesdroids as Compaq
> and Dell.
>
> > 	+ A much wider range of specialised hardware
>
>   What?
>
> > 	+ usually easy to get parts for within the 3
> > 	years they are good for
>
>   And this is different from real computers how, exactly?
>
> > 	+ easier to get staff/contractor to maintain them (*1)
>
>   Yes, you can get an MCSE to run it.  Is that really a good thing?
>
> > 	+ that software is often significantly cheaper than the Unix
> > 	alternative
>
>   Your tie is showing.  With a small number of notable exceptions, the
> very best software in the Unix world is free.  That's the way this
> world works.
>
> > 	+ almost anyone out of high school that can spell their name
> > 	can be taught to operated one (*1)
>
>   If you really want to have your business relying on some moron, be
> my guest.  I'm glad nothing that's important to me relies on you and
> YOUR engineering sense.
>
>       -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire
> St. Petersburg, FL         "Less talk.  More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
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