Just a note: I found the RefurbUPS guys sell stuff cheaper via BIN on eBay than they do on their web site. e.g. compare: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16184&item=2741228945 with: https://www.refurbups.com/proddesc.asp?ProductID=52 Although the front looks different -- hmm, are these the same item? --Patrick