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Arthur Wouk
awouk at nilenet.com
Tue Sep 6 18:21:41 CDT 2005
i really also am in the third category. i am an old timer (81) spending his
declining years playing with hardware. i started with sparc2's, now also
have going four sparc10s, two with 150mhz hypersparcs, one with two
sm71's, one with two hypersparc 125mhz's. this spring i was gifted an
ultra-1 with 200mhz cpu, which is the only machine fast enopugh to
run a graphics browser, it is, however, slow. i would like to get
something which would run solaris 10. even an ultra-2, though i would
love an ultra-60.
no problems on shipping. you quote price, i will send the money.
:Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 13:27:07 -0500 (CDT)
:From: "Jonathan C. Patschke" <jp at celestrion.net>
:Subject: [rescue] Crashing the Used UltraSPARC Market
:To: Sun-Rescue Mailing List <rescue at sunhelp.org>, Geeks
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:My employer is getting ready to get rid of (ie: give away, recycle,
:dump, whatever) a large amount of Sun equipment. The systems range from
:the pedestrian Ultra 1E, Ultra 2, and SPARCstation 20 to the
:industrial-looking and nearly indestructable Tatung clones thereof to
:the exotic Cyclequad and Cycle-UP 520. My employer has put me in charge
:of getting rid of the extras, and I really don't want to see any of
:these machines go to the dump.
:
:We're moving in late November, and don't want to take anything we're not
:using. This is just a heads-up so that you folks can spread the word to
:anyone whom you think might be interested. I'll have a full inventory
:soon.
:
:In my mind, I'd most like to see these systems go to any BSD or Linux
:(or other free OS or free software) maintainer who would benefit from
:SMP-capable UltraSPARC hardware[0], or possibly to a school or other
:nonprofit that would benefit from them. However, my understanding is
:that these machines are fully depreciated, so, really, $WORK would be
:happy that they went to anyone.
:
:A cursory check shows these systems to mostly be fully-equipped with at
:least two processors per (where applicable), healthy amounts of memory,
:and smallish disks[1]. These machines were EDA and CAD workstations, so
:most of them have Creator3D graphics, as well.
:
:In my rough estimation (again, I'll have a better idea once I get a full
:inventory of everything), there are about 40 machines that will need to
:find homes. So, don't be shy.
:
:If you want one (or more), you'll need to either pick your systems up
:from my house in Elgin, or I'll deliver anywhere in Austin[2], or you'll
:need to pay me[3] shipping and packaging. I will consider shipping
:systems for free to bona fide maintainers of free operating system
:projects, but I obviously cannot afford to foot the bill for everyone.
:
:
:
:[0] I'd LOVE to have SMP support on OpenBSD and NetBSD, for example, so
: I will make an attempt to contact those maintainers personally. I
: have no idea whose tree to shake for Linux on UltraSPARC. If you
: know someone working on Linux or a similar project on UltraSPARC,
: please forward this message to him or her.
:[1] Disks I cannot promise. I'm going to attempt to get the okay to
: hand out machines with disks that I've wiped and certified, but I do
: work for a semiconductor design firm, so there may be well-justified
: paranoia about disks in machines that were used in the design
: process.
:[2] Or possible elsewhere in Texas, for a small bribe. If you're within
: an hour or so of Austin, it's more of a PITA for me to ship than
: deliver.
:[3] In advance. I've gotten jerked around on shipping charges far too
: often on freebies.
:--
:Jonathan Patschke ) "When we are young, wandering the face of the
:Elgin, TX ( earth, wondering what our dreams might be worth,
:USA ) learning that we're only immortal--for a limited
: ( time." --Neil Peart
:
:
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:
:Message: 7
:Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:58:32 -0500
:From: Steve Hatle <shatle at nfldinet.com>
:Subject: Re: [rescue] Crashing the Used UltraSPARC Market
:To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
:Message-ID: <BF435108.2146B%shatle at nfldinet.com>
:Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
:
:Jonathan,
:
:I'll put my hand up if machines are available after you (rightfully) fulfill
:any to the maintainers of the *BSD's or other good causes.
:
:An SS20 or U1 is not of much interest, but a U2 or better or CycleQuad would
:be awesome. No disk is not a problem.
:
:I'd be happy to pay for shipping, though I think I might have a tab open
:from the VAX 4000. I don't recall seeing a Paypal come in to cover the $35
:or so that the shipping there cost. :-) Seriously, I'd pay to cover
:shipping.
:
:So- consider better homes first, but if things are left over after that, let
:me know.
:
:Thanks,
:
:Steve
:
:
:
:
:On 9/6/05 1:27 PM, "Jonathan C. Patschke" <jp at celestrion.net> wrote:
:
:> My employer is getting ready to get rid of (ie: give away, recycle,
:> dump, whatever) a large amount of Sun equipment. The systems range from
:> the pedestrian Ultra 1E, Ultra 2, and SPARCstation 20 to the
:> industrial-looking and nearly indestructable Tatung clones thereof to
:> the exotic Cyclequad and Cycle-UP 520. My employer has put me in charge
:> of getting rid of the extras, and I really don't want to see any of
:> these machines go to the dump.
:>
:> We're moving in late November, and don't want to take anything we're not
:> using. This is just a heads-up so that you folks can spread the word to
:> anyone whom you think might be interested. I'll have a full inventory
:> soon.
:>
:> In my mind, I'd most like to see these systems go to any BSD or Linux
:> (or other free OS or free software) maintainer who would benefit from
:> SMP-capable UltraSPARC hardware[0], or possibly to a school or other
:> nonprofit that would benefit from them. However, my understanding is
:> that these machines are fully depreciated, so, really, $WORK would be
:> happy that they went to anyone.
:>
:> A cursory check shows these systems to mostly be fully-equipped with at
:> least two processors per (where applicable), healthy amounts of memory,
:> and smallish disks[1]. These machines were EDA and CAD workstations, so
:> most of them have Creator3D graphics, as well.
:>
:> In my rough estimation (again, I'll have a better idea once I get a full
:> inventory of everything), there are about 40 machines that will need to
:> find homes. So, don't be shy.
:>
:> If you want one (or more), you'll need to either pick your systems up
:> from my house in Elgin, or I'll deliver anywhere in Austin[2], or you'll
:> need to pay me[3] shipping and packaging. I will consider shipping
:> systems for free to bona fide maintainers of free operating system
:> projects, but I obviously cannot afford to foot the bill for everyone.
:>
:>
:>
:> [0] I'd LOVE to have SMP support on OpenBSD and NetBSD, for example, so
:> I will make an attempt to contact those maintainers personally. I
:> have no idea whose tree to shake for Linux on UltraSPARC. If you
:> know someone working on Linux or a similar project on UltraSPARC,
:> please forward this message to him or her.
:> [1] Disks I cannot promise. I'm going to attempt to get the okay to
:> hand out machines with disks that I've wiped and certified, but I do
:> work for a semiconductor design firm, so there may be well-justified
:> paranoia about disks in machines that were used in the design
:> process.
:> [2] Or possible elsewhere in Texas, for a small bribe. If you're within
:> an hour or so of Austin, it's more of a PITA for me to ship than
:> deliver.
:> [3] In advance. I've gotten jerked around on shipping charges far too
:> often on freebies.
:
:
:------------------------------
:
:Message: 8
:Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:02:54 -0500
:From: Steve Hatle <shatle at nfldinet.com>
:Subject: Re: [rescue] Crashing the Used UltraSPARC Market
:To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
:Message-ID: <BF43520E.21475%shatle at nfldinet.com>
:Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
:
:D'oh!
:
:Shoulda been private, blah, blah, blah.
:
:Sorry,
:
:Steve
:
:
:
:On 9/6/05 1:58 PM, "Steve Hatle" <shatle at nfldinet.com> wrote:
:
:> Jonathan,
:>
:> I'll put my hand up if machines are available after you (rightfully) fulfill
:> any to the maintainers of the *BSD's or other good causes.
:>
:> An SS20 or U1 is not of much interest, but a U2 or better or CycleQuad would
:> be awesome. No disk is not a problem.
:>
:> I'd be happy to pay for shipping, though I think I might have a tab open
:> from the VAX 4000. I don't recall seeing a Paypal come in to cover the $35
:> or so that the shipping there cost. :-) Seriously, I'd pay to cover
:> shipping.
:>
:> So- consider better homes first, but if things are left over after that, let
:> me know.
:>
:> Thanks,
:>
:> Steve
:>
:>
:>
:>
:> On 9/6/05 1:27 PM, "Jonathan C. Patschke" <jp at celestrion.net> wrote:
:>
:>> My employer is getting ready to get rid of (ie: give away, recycle,
:>> dump, whatever) a large amount of Sun equipment. The systems range from
:>> the pedestrian Ultra 1E, Ultra 2, and SPARCstation 20 to the
:>> industrial-looking and nearly indestructable Tatung clones thereof to
:>> the exotic Cyclequad and Cycle-UP 520. My employer has put me in charge
:>> of getting rid of the extras, and I really don't want to see any of
:>> these machines go to the dump.
:>>
:>> We're moving in late November, and don't want to take anything we're not
:>> using. This is just a heads-up so that you folks can spread the word to
:>> anyone whom you think might be interested. I'll have a full inventory
:>> soon.
:>>
:>> In my mind, I'd most like to see these systems go to any BSD or Linux
:>> (or other free OS or free software) maintainer who would benefit from
:>> SMP-capable UltraSPARC hardware[0], or possibly to a school or other
:>> nonprofit that would benefit from them. However, my understanding is
:>> that these machines are fully depreciated, so, really, $WORK would be
:>> happy that they went to anyone.
:>>
:>> A cursory check shows these systems to mostly be fully-equipped with at
:>> least two processors per (where applicable), healthy amounts of memory,
:>> and smallish disks[1]. These machines were EDA and CAD workstations, so
:>> most of them have Creator3D graphics, as well.
:>>
:>> In my rough estimation (again, I'll have a better idea once I get a full
:>> inventory of everything), there are about 40 machines that will need to
:>> find homes. So, don't be shy.
:>>
:>> If you want one (or more), you'll need to either pick your systems up
:>> from my house in Elgin, or I'll deliver anywhere in Austin[2], or you'll
:>> need to pay me[3] shipping and packaging. I will consider shipping
:>> systems for free to bona fide maintainers of free operating system
:>> projects, but I obviously cannot afford to foot the bill for everyone.
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>> [0] I'd LOVE to have SMP support on OpenBSD and NetBSD, for example, so
:>> I will make an attempt to contact those maintainers personally. I
:>> have no idea whose tree to shake for Linux on UltraSPARC. If you
:>> know someone working on Linux or a similar project on UltraSPARC,
:>> please forward this message to him or her.
:>> [1] Disks I cannot promise. I'm going to attempt to get the okay to
:>> hand out machines with disks that I've wiped and certified, but I do
:>> work for a semiconductor design firm, so there may be well-justified
:>> paranoia about disks in machines that were used in the design
:>> process.
:>> [2] Or possible elsewhere in Texas, for a small bribe. If you're within
:>> an hour or so of Austin, it's more of a PITA for me to ship than
:>> deliver.
:>> [3] In advance. I've gotten jerked around on shipping charges far too
:>> often on freebies.
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