[rescue] rescue Digest, Vol 175, Issue 4 - Sun Blade 2500 OS options

Mon Jun 12 21:01:06 CDT 2017

All releases of Solaris 10 and Solaris 11 supports the Sun Blade 2500.

See the "Solaris 11 Hardware Compatability List". The Blade 2500 is on the
list.

Gary Sloane

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (Nemo)
   2. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (Jerry Kemp)
   3. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (William Barnett-Lewis)
   4. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (Phil Stracchino)
   5. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (Nemo)
   6. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (Jerry Kemp)
   7. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (Phil Stracchino)
   8. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (William Barnett-Lewis)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:29:59 -0400
From: Nemo <cym224 at gmail.com>
To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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On 10 June 2017 at 04:53, William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com> wrote
(in part):
> On Jun 10, 2017 02:14, "Jerry Kemp" <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us> wrote (in
part):

> Don't remember off the top of my head what Sun's last Solaris 10
> release was, but Solaris 10u11 from Oracle is a fine and stable release.

I run Solaris 10u13 on my SB2500.  One interesting difference from previous
releases is that the stuff in the companion disc (installed in /opt/sfw) is
now part of the release (installed in /usr/sfw).

> I'm a *BSD fan myself, but have never ran it on SPARC, someone else
> will need to chime in here.

OpenBSD runs fine.

I would be curious as to how running gimp works out.  It is included int u13.

N.

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:30:06 -0500
From: Jerry Kemp <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us>
To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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On 06/12/17 12:29 PM, Nemo wrote:
> On 10 June 2017 at 04:53, William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com>
> wrote (in part):
>> On Jun 10, 2017 02:14, "Jerry Kemp" <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us> wrote (in
part):
>
>> Don't remember off the top of my head what Sun's last Solaris 10
>> release was, but Solaris 10u11 from Oracle is a fine and stable release.
>
> I run Solaris 10u13 on my SB2500.  One interesting difference from
> previous releases is that the stuff in the companion disc (installed
> in /opt/sfw) is now part of the release (installed in /usr/sfw).

The last Solaris 10 release from Oracle is S10u11, with a release date of
January 2013.  Is this what you are running?  Or something else?

>
>> I'm a *BSD fan myself, but have never ran it on SPARC, someone else will
>> need to chime in here.
>
> OpenBSD runs fine.
>
> I would be curious as to how running gimp works out.

I've ran gimp on Solaris, both SPARC and Intel.  It runs.  Never done anything
meaningful with it, other than maybe rotate or crop an image.  Spent too many
years with Adobe applications to ever attempt anything meaningful with gimp,
and
because of that, there will always be a Mac of some sorts next to my Solaris
and/or OpenIndiana desktop.

> It is included int u13.
>
> N.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:35:16 -0500
From: William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com>
To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Nemo <cym224 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10 June 2017 at 04:53, William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com>
> wrote (in part):
>> On Jun 10, 2017 02:14, "Jerry Kemp" <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us> wrote (in
part):
>
>> Don't remember off the top of my head what Sun's last Solaris 10 release
>> was, but Solaris 10u11 from Oracle is a fine and stable release.
>
> I run Solaris 10u13 on my SB2500.  One interesting difference from
> previous releases is that the stuff in the companion disc (installed
> in /opt/sfw) is now part of the release (installed in /usr/sfw).

I've found a copy of the 10u11 (dated 1/13) which appears to be the
most recent - perhaps that's what your running? I also have the
2010.11 edition of Solaris Express. I'll see which runs better for me.

>> I'm a *BSD fan myself, but have never ran it on SPARC, someone else will
>> need to chime in here.
>
> OpenBSD runs fine.

I believe that there is only unaccellerated use of the XVR-600
framebuffer in *BSD.

> I would be curious as to how running gimp works out.  It is included int
u13.

I expect that until I get the ram maxed out at 16 gb and the second
CPU & fan (both reasonably cheap on E-Prey) it won't be all that good
but once those two specs are up there, it'll probably be no worse than
my dual core (de?)Celeron Dell laptop. Graphic performance should be
better at minimum.

--
Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance
like no-one is watching.
                Alex White

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:01:35 -0400
From: Phil Stracchino <phils at caerllewys.net>
To: rescue at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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On 06/12/17 14:30, Jerry Kemp wrote:
> The last Solaris 10 release from Oracle is S10u11, with a release date of
> January 2013.  Is this what you are running?  Or something else?

Speaking of Solaris releases ... what's the current latest word on
availability of Solaris 11?  I'd like to start getting ducks in order
ready for the soon-incoming X4540.

--
  Phil Stracchino
  Babylon Communications
  phils at caerllewys.net
  phil at co.ordinate.org
  Landline: +1.603.293.8485
  Mobile:   +1.603.998.6958

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:47:59 -0400
From: Nemo <cym224 at gmail.com>
To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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On 12 June 2017 at 14:35, William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Nemo <cym224 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10 June 2017 at 04:53, William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com>
>> wrote (in part):
>>> On Jun 10, 2017 02:14, "Jerry Kemp" <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us> wrote (in
part):
>>
>>> Don't remember off the top of my head what Sun's last Solaris 10 release
>>> was, but Solaris 10u11 from Oracle is a fine and stable release.
>>
>> I run Solaris 10u13 on my SB2500.  One interesting difference from
>> previous releases is that the stuff in the companion disc (installed
>> in /opt/sfw) is now part of the release (installed in /usr/sfw).
>
> I've found a copy of the 10u11 (dated 1/13) which appears to be the
> most recent - perhaps that's what your running?

Yes.  Sorry, all, I confused the date with the release:

[~]=> cat /etc/release
                   Oracle Solaris 10 1/13 s10s_u11wos_24a SPARC
  Copyright (c) 1983, 2013, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights
reserved.
                            Assembled 17 January 2013

>> I would be curious as to how running gimp works out.  It is included int
u13.
>
> I expect that until I get the ram maxed out at 16 gb and the second
> CPU & fan (both reasonably cheap on E-Prey) it won't be all that good
> but once those two specs are up there, it'll probably be no worse than
> my dual core (de?)Celeron Dell laptop. Graphic performance should be
> better at minimum.

I assume that you have the Silver.  I ran versions of gimp that I
compiled from source.  It wasn't that bad.  I never tried the
Oracle-sigh-supplied binary gimp. which is probably better tuned.

N.

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:38:20 -0500
From: Jerry Kemp <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us>
To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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I'm guessing that you missed Oracle's versioning announcement earlier in the
year.

The short story is, Oracle is jumping on the same versioning bandwagon that
Apple did in 2001 and m$ did with the windows 10 release.

And what bandwagon is that?  Just in short, enterprise customers drag their
feet
in regards to updates, many times well beyond the last support date.

The response, Oracle will not bump the version number any more.  They will
forever add new features, bug fixes, security releases, etc to Solaris 11.x.

For how long...their support matrix shows support out till almost 2040.  I
believe that is it something like 2038 or similar.

Don't take my word for any of this.  All of this is out on various
*.oracle.com
support web pages, although I would bet your capacity planning team (assuming
large organization) has already seen this.

Also, again, assuming you haven't been on Solaris 11.x since 2011, getting any
version or kernel version out of 'uname -a' is long gone too.

I do quarterly SRU updates at $WORK.

# pkg info entire | grep -i branch

is now your version validation tool.

Hope this helps.

Jerry

On 06/12/17 02:01 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> On 06/12/17 14:30, Jerry Kemp wrote:
>> The last Solaris 10 release from Oracle is S10u11, with a release date of
>> January 2013.  Is this what you are running?  Or something else?
>
> Speaking of Solaris releases ... what's the current latest word on
> availability of Solaris 11?  I'd like to start getting ducks in order
> ready for the soon-incoming X4540.

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:19:32 -0400
From: Phil Stracchino <phils at caerllewys.net>
To: rescue at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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On 06/12/17 16:38, Jerry Kemp wrote:
> I'm guessing that you missed Oracle's versioning announcement earlier in the
year.
>
> The short story is, Oracle is jumping on the same versioning bandwagon that
> Apple did in 2001 and m$ did with the windows 10 release.
>
> And what bandwagon is that?  Just in short, enterprise customers drag their
feet
> in regards to updates, many times well beyond the last support date.
>
> The response, Oracle will not bump the version number any more.  They will
> forever add new features, bug fixes, security releases, etc to Solaris
11.x.

I was more inquiring about options for getting it, whether there is
currently anything resembling a hobbyist license, etc.

And if not, then recommendations for open-source alternatives...?

--
  Phil Stracchino
  Babylon Communications
  phils at caerllewys.net
  phil at co.ordinate.org
  Landline: +1.603.293.8485
  Mobile:   +1.603.998.6958

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 20:53:15 -0500
From: William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com>
To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Phil Stracchino <phils at caerllewys.net>
wrote:
> I was more inquiring about options for getting it, whether there is
> currently anything resembling a hobbyist license, etc.
>
> And if not, then recommendations for open-source alternatives...?

Here's where their downloads of Solaris 10 are. You'll have to go
through the license to see if it's ok.

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris10/downloads/index.ht
ml

--
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like no-one is watching.
                Alex White

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