[rescue] SUN PCMCIA SBus Card

[Richard]

OK so thanks to Carl Friend I have found the drivers.......drum roll......wait for it......they are on the Solaris CD.....Doh! *embarrassed* 
talk about hiding in plain sight.....guess this hardware  is not the same as some of the others....off to get the card working...

On Mon, 28 May 2018, at 8:11 AM, Richard wrote:
> :-) am enjoying the discussion 
> 
> Makes me want to get an AS400....
> 
> So back to the subject anyone know where I can find the PCMCIA drivers 
> for Solaris ?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 28 May 2018, at 07:53, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On 05/27/2018 05:20 PM, Jonathan Patschke wrote:
> >>> B This tickled a memory.B  No offense, but you've also proclaimed that
> >>> the user experience with the IBM 5250 is awful.
> >> 
> >> I don't think that was me.B  The administrative experience isn't that great
> >> unless you're an all-IBM shop, and my experience is more with 3270-lineage
> >> terminals than 5250s, but I like the 3270 experience at lot.
> > 
> >  Ok, I could certainly be wrong, and if I am, I apologize.  I could've
> > sworn that you and I were discussing AS/400s here on this list sometime
> > in the past couple of years, and you mentioned something about "the
> > awful 5250 user experience" and it really stuck with me.  Because that's
> > not at all how many people who sit (or sat) in front of an AS/400
> > terminal all day, every day saw them.
> > 
> >  One recent one that I picked up, from a county government building in
> > a terrifyingly religion-obsessed region in southwest Ohio, was
> > particularly fun.  A handful of older ladies came scurrying down to the
> > loading dock because they'd been told that "someone had come to get
> > 'their 400'".  They looked at the young guy who swapped it out for some
> > overgrown Windows toy with great disdain, and made me promise to take
> > good care of "their 400".  I will never forget that, it was hilarious!
> > 
> >  In reality there's very little difference between 3270 and 5250; even
> > the wire protocols are similar.  IBM was great at re-using things with a
> > "toolbox" approach, but now always!
> > 
> >> A lot of benefits come with terminal controllers and the rest of IBM's
> >> complexity, but the complexity is non-optional.B  This is parallel to my
> >> complaint with Emacs.
> > 
> >  *shrug*  Mainframes are complex things that are used for complex
> > tasks.  You set up a given terminal controller once, and it may be in
> > another city or even country.  It's not really any more complicated than
> > setting up [drum roll please] what YOU (and I) are used to setting up.
> > Beefy UNIX systems tend to baffle most mainframers too.  (Just like
> > emacs vs. vi, I run both and interact with both communities, so I feel
> > qualified to make that statement.)
> > 
> >>> B They're just not YOUR favorite tools or mesh well with what YOU do.
> >>> And that's ok.
> >> 
> >> Exactly so.B  If all my tools plugged into Emacs, I'd appreciate it a lot
> >> more.B  But it's really just a whole lot of tooling for a transitory text
> >> editor.
> > 
> >  But it's not "a transitory text editor".  It can be used for that,
> > especially now (emacs starts up every bit as quickly as vi on all of my
> > current systems...that wasn't the case 20 years ago), but it's been a
> > programming editor from day one.  Emacs just wasn't conceived for
> > throwing entries in /etc/hosts.
> > 
> >  I sometimes plug my tools into emacs, but most of the time I start it
> > up and spend the next ten hours writing code.  Very happily. =)  *swoon*
> > 
> >> Most of the time, though, I just want to hammer out some code, and all the
> >> rest of Emacs is overhead.
> > 
> >  For the way YOU use a programming editor, yes.  That's not usually the
> > case for "emacs people", which is why they are "emacs people".  Nobody
> > is forcing you to accept that supposed overhead, even if today it only
> > really exists in terms of some spent disk space.
> > 
> >  ...Wow.
> > 
> >  Look, I mentioned emacs vs. vi as a joke.  I honestly thought the
> > world was over that crap by now, but apparently it isn't.  I'm sorry for
> > even having brought it up.  This debate, and these EXACT same arguments,
> > have been rehashed ad infinitum, ad nauseum by hordes of people since
> > the 1980s.  Only the venue has changed.  I suggest that we drop it.
> > 
> >>> B Yup.B  And the only things worse than crap like that are the morons who
> >>> think that software cannot be written without them.B  "Duh, Where do I
> >>> click to make my program go??"
> >> 
> >> My Dad used to complain about a particular sort of mechanic that came up
> >> in my generation.B  He called them "parts-swappers."B  He'd rebuild a
> >> transmission; a parts-swapper would swap it out.B  At some economies of
> >> scale and severity of repair, replace vs fix makes more sense, but if
> >> someone who doesn't know *how* to fix it can't make that call.
> >> 
> >> Java, PHP, and JavaScript brought up a generation of library-swappers.
> > 
> >  Yes.  [vomit]  But I am thankful for those kids, because their
> > cluelessness and shoddy work keeps me in nice consulting work. :)
> > 
> >             -Dave
> > 
> > -- 
> > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> > New Kensington, PA
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