[rescue] Sun Netra T1125

Richard ejb at trick-1.net
Tue Nov 12 06:19:11 CST 2019


Hi Mike

So the CPU is rated at 480Mhz....so by clocking at 480Mhz I am picking I am not stressing the CPU. Is the UDB chip on the CPU or off board? Will see if I can find SunVTS to stress test though....

As far as I can tell I am running the latest OBP 3.31 for netra t 1125.... per the following link http://www.imhans.com:1004/syshbk/Devices/Boot_PROM/BootPROM_UltraSPARC_I_II.html#U60 

As to the CPU1 issue if I use it as CPU0 I get a (RSE) Red State Exception which as far as I understand is a hardware error....anyone got a spare ?

have identified that issuing the command "word" at the obp will list all the available commands.....yet to try it though...

That being said rather happy with the outcome...

cheers

Richard

On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, at 11:00 PM, Mike Spooner wrote:
> Good show! Personally, I'd limit to 472MHz, the UDB chips are often iffy at
> 120MHz and likely to eventually throw errors under heavy bus load (and that's
> when you get data-corruption). If you have SunVTS diag-stress-testing software
> installed, I'd certainly put that overclock through it.
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> IIRC, *some* of the 'also hidden' commands in OBP are also present in
> OpenFirmware, of which source-code is freely available. As for the 2nd-CPU
> problem, getting latest OBP firmware might help.
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> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:22 AM +0000, "Richard" <ejb at trick-1.net> wrote:
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> Hi Mike
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> fantastic info. Thank you.
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> ok banner
> (UltraSPARC-II 450Mhz), Keyboard Present
> OpenBoot 3.31, 1024MB memory installed, Serial #xxxxxxxxx
> Ethernet Address 8:0:20:x:x:x:x, Hodt ID: xxxxxxxx
> ok also hidden
> ok d# 455 at-speed
> ok d# 480 at-speed
> (UltraSPARC-II 480Mhz), Keyboard Present
> OpenBoot 3.31, 1024MB memory installed, Serial #xxxxxxxxx
> Ethernet Address 8:0:20:x:x:x:x, Hodt ID: xxxxxxxx
> ok boot -r
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> (x's in the above are redactions)
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> I found if I went straight to 480 the machine locked up.....
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> so booting the machine and logging in....
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> Sun Microsystems Inc.   SunOS 5.8       Generic February 2000
> # psrinfo -v
> Status of processor 0 as of: 11/12/19 22:12:37
>   Processor has been on-line since 11/12/19 21:56:52.
>   The sparcv9 processor operates at 480 MHz,
>         and has a sparcv9 floating point processor.
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> # /usr/platform/sun4u/sbin/prtdiag -v
> System Configuration:  Sun Microsystems  sun4u  (UltraSPARC-II 480MHz)
> System clock frequency: 120 MHz
> Memory size: 1024 Megabytes
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> ========================= CPUs =========================
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>                     Run   Ecache   CPU    CPU
> Brd  CPU   Module   MHz     MB    Impl.   Mask
> ---  ---  -------  -----  ------  ------  ----
>  0     0     0      480     4.0   US-II    1.0
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> so it can be seen at the OS level as a 480Mhz CPU.....will run this for a
> while and see what happens.
> I wonder if there is a way to get the 8Mb of cache visible instead of the 4Mb
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> Inserting the second CPU and the system hangs after identifying the graphics
> card....guess the CPU has issues. (unless there is another mask hack or some
> such?)
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> also is there a list of "Hidden" OBP Commands?
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> cheers
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> Richard
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> On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, at 9:20 PM, Mike Spooner wrote:
> > Ah, forgot to mention that these OBP commands can be set to apply on every
> > boot by using nvramrc.
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> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 10:12 AM +0000, "Mike Spooner"
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> > The method is documented at
> > https://sun.3113.com/2008/02/09/how-to-overclock-your-sun-ultrasparc-box/,
> > although that isn't where I originally found it. IIRC, the instructions I
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> > were linked from Mr Dewick's site back in the day.
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> > -- Mike
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> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:22 AM +0000, "Richard"  wrote:
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> > Hi Mike
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> > Interesting...
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> > I took a look at the following
> > http://www.shrubbery.net/~heas/sun-feh-2_1/General/OBP.html and some other
> > OBP
> > documents but couldn't see antyhing about reprogramming teh UPA
> speed.....any
> > pointers?
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> > Richard
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, at 7:03 PM, Mike Spooner wrote:
> > > I presume that it might be possible to get a 480 to run at close to that
> by
> > > reprogramming the UPA speed in OBP, same as can be done on Ultra-10 and
> > > Ultra-30. I've sucessfully run a nominally 440MHz CPU in the Ultra-10 at
> > > 472MHz (118MHz UPA) with no errors. The SMCC UPA data-buffer chips were
> > > specced for upto 120MHz operation, although very few actually could reach
> > > quite that far - the Ultra-4 used best-binned ones.
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> > > - Mike
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> > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 10:24 PM +0000, "Peter Stokes"
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> > > Hi
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> > > I think that the 480Mhz are 450 only, the 420 only supported the 450Mhz
> as
> > > per
> > > the T1125/Ultra 60. The 450 supported the 250, 300, 400 and 480Mhz from
> > > memory.
> > >
> > > Never tried the 480Mhz in an Ultra 60, normally mixing the CPUs does not
> > > work,
> > > but obviously does in this case, but suspect that you will only get
> 450Mhz
> > > out
> > > of it.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > > On 11 Nov 2019, at 11:56, Richard  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > o;?Hi everyone
> > > >
> > > > OK so the T1125 is now up and running. It had its issues but would boot
> > > both
> > > CPU to Solaris 10 (no root passwd so reinstalled) when it arrived.
> however
> > > > - 1 of the 2 drives was dead, removed the dead one...ordered a
> > replacement
> > > > - NVRAM Battery was dead and the system complained about ID PROM
> INVALID
> > > etc..
> > > > - After replacing the NVRAM Battery the machine wouldn't boot and gave
> a
> > > RED
> > > State Exceptions on power up. Removing the second CPU (CPU1) seemed to
> > > resolve
> > > the issue, using CPU1 as CPU0 also resulted in RED State Exception so I
> am
> > > guessing the CPU is the issue.
> > > >
> > > > One interesting point is that both CPU are 480Mhz CPU Module with 8M
> > Cache
> > > (501-5729)...have not found anything to indicate that thats a supported
> > > configuration. All I can find is that it is supported for Enterprise 450,
> > > 420R...I note that OBP reports as 450Mhz CPU. Anyone have any insight?
> > Anyone
> > > got a spare they would be willing to part with? Is it an OS level issue
> > > similar to that in the following
> > > http://shrubbery.net/~heas/sun-feh-2_1/collections/intsrdb/24408.html
> > > >
> > > > Ordered the following to max the machine out...
> > > > - Extra Gig of memory
> > > > - Replacement drive
> > > > - Gig ethernet card
> > > >
> > > > So current state
> > > > - Solaris 8 + Recommended Patch bundle + SUNWspci2 + SUNWspvnc
> > > > - TECH-SOURCE gfxp
> > > > - 3x SunPCI II Cards (will probably drop back to 2 when the Gig
> ethernet
> > > card turns up.
> > > >
> > > > # ./sunpci -l
> > > > Opening a SunPCi window...
> > > >
> > > >  Name = Card1
> > > >    Device = /dev/sunpci2drv0
> > > >    Type = SunPCi II
> > > >    Description = SunPCi II card
> > > >    Peripherals =
> > > >    ID = 00:03:BA:13:58:D6
> > > >
> > > >  Name = Card2
> > > >    Device = /dev/sunpci2drv3
> > > >    Type = SunPCi II
> > > >    Description = SunPCi II card
> > > >    Peripherals =
> > > >    ID = 00:03:BA:10:F2:D0
> > > >
> > > >  Name = Card3
> > > >    Device = /dev/sunpci2drv6
> > > >    Type = SunPCi II
> > > >    Description = SunPCi II card
> > > >    Peripherals =
> > > >    ID = 00:03:BA:10:F3:4A
> > > >
> > > > thanks in advance
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > >
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> > > >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, at 11:32 PM, Dennis Grevenstein wrote:
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> Richard wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Answering my own question...:-)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Yes will work with 9 and possibly 10 with some work arounds.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Documentation indicates can install multiple cards in the same
> > > machine...I
> > > >>> have 3 so letbs see how that goes :-) will have to watch that 25W
> per
> > > card
> > > >>> power requirement.....
> > > >>
> > > >> I think this depends on the exact version of the SunPCi card.
> > > >> The later versions II and III should work. The earliest SunPCI
> > > >> may not.
> > > >>
> > > >> Dennis
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