[rescue] Novell Netware

[Liam Proven]

On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 at 16:06, Doug McIntyre <merlyn at geeks.org> wrote:
>
> I didn't know many companies who even considered going to NW4 and NDS.
> NW3 was good for everybody in my circle, and they kept on it for a
> long time until NT mostly took over.
>

Interesting. Doesn't match what I saw in the British Isles.

Most Netware houses eventually upgraded.

Some customers defected to NT4 because it was easier, as you point out.

The irony is that people mistrusted NW4 because NDS was too hard, then
they went to NT instead, and with Windows 2000 Server, they got
directory servers anyway, like it or not.

> My pet theory is that NT got its foothold in because it didn't enforce
> its' licensing.

Interesting. Could be.

>  On _every_ Netware network I was on, it was underlicensed.
> People being kicked off because they didn't have the license was de
rigeour.

Wow. I almost never saw that.

> This was true of most "workgroup" solutions at the time, the unix
> systems that were competing in this area also enforced their licensing
> on number of client seats, and fell by the wayside because they
> enforced their licensing.
>
> OOTH, every NT network I was on was underlicensed, but it was unenforced.

(!)

We must have inhabited very different worlds.

> NT also let an "admin" click around a bunch, and eventually something
> came out that let people work somewhat. It wasn't setup "right", but
> it did something. I can't count the number of times I sat down and
> go WTF is a network bridging interface setup for? Or everything under the
> sun installed, half setup, and competing for resources.

Yep, all true.

> As you said, on Netware (and on Unix solutions), it took training, and
> knowledge to set them up to work correctly. Nobody knew what a
> directory was. It was very foreign to any admin.

Yes. Definitely. NW4 _really_ needed a dead simple stripped back setup
for single-server use, and it never had it.


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