[rescue] Sun 3/60

[Cameron Kelly]

What do you use them for nowadays?

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 6:55 PM Alan Perry via rescue
<rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
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> There is no version of Solaris 2/SunOS 5 that runs on sun3 hardware.
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> But I don’t know what you mean by “written close to the hardware”. SunOS 1-4 is based on BSD like NetBSD.
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> I worked for Sun on Solaris 2.3 - 7 and Solaris 10 - 11.4 (commands and libraries group then I/O (driver infrastructure) group, then x86 platform group which became a general platform group (I/O as above, boot and low-level initialization)). I run everything on my collection of Sun machines, SunOS 3, SunOS 4, Solaris 2 (versions that I worked on), NetBSD, OpenBSD, Linux, NeXTSTEP.
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> alan
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> > On Nov 12, 2023, at 11:33, Mike Katz via rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
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> > i am a closet SUN fan from my days working on Sun machines for a 68000 C cross compiler company.
> >
> > If you are running an old Sun, I would strongly recommend SunOs (not Solaris) even without source because it was very stable and written close to the hardware.
> >
> > I think running anything else isn't really paying homage to the Sun.
> >
> > If you want modern Unix/Linux stuff, run it on a Raspberry Pi.
> >
> > On 11/12/2023 1:13 PM, Mouse via rescue wrote:
> >>>>>> What OS do you intend to run on it ? Vintage SunOS 4.x or some
> >>>>>> more recent NetBSD ?
> >>>>> I'm not sure.  Preferably both but I'm biased towards NetBSD since
> >>>>> it's easy to get a modern Unix environment going with package
> >>>>> management and whatever else going.
> >>>> Really recommend running vintage on this machine
> >>> Same here.  We just brought up a 3/50 at LSSM, nicely responsive
> >>> running SunOS 4.1.1_U1, after the kernel was trimmed down.  Such
> >>> great machines!
> >> Well, a "modern Unix environment" (hundreds of megs of Web browser,
> >> running into TLS every time you turn around, bell-and-whistle-infested
> >> UI) is something a -3/60 just doesn't have the computrons to support.
> >>
> >> Personally, I wouldn't run SunOS simply for lack of source.  But that's
> >> the only reason; in every other respect, IMO it's a fine choice.  If
> >> you do want source code, I'd suggest older NetBSD - my -3/60 runs (my
> >> own derivative of) 1.4T.  It doesn't support a "modern" environment,
> >> no, but (a) my desire for such a thing is actually negative and (b) a
> >> -3/60 can't really support one anyway, so that's fine with me.
> >>
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