<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard; font-size: medium; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Hi Ethan</span><div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Thanks for that…..</div><div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">The sun 3e boards don’t have a special cable <a href="https://shrubbery.net/~heas/sun-feh-2_1/Systems/Sun3/FEH3.enter.html" class="">https://shrubbery.net/~heas/sun-feh-2_1/Systems/Sun3/FEH3.enter.html</a> I have the <span dir="ltr">501-8031</span> . The Sun 4e memory boards don’t have any special cable either <span dir="ltr">501-8042/501-8036</span>/501-8060 <a href="https://oldcomputers-ddns.org/public/pub/rechner/other_hardware/sun/sparc_4-330/sun-4x.pdf" class="">https://oldcomputers-ddns.org/public/pub/rechner/other_hardware/sun/sparc_4-330/sun-4x.pdf</a> . They look very much the same :-/</div><div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">How would I map them manually? Any pointers/howto?</div><div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">FWIW in my SPARCStation 1 I have the SBUS memory expansion with a special jumper cable. That won’t fit on this board.</div><div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Cheers</div><div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Richard</span><br class=""></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 23 May 2022, at 20:25, Ethan Hawke <ehawk@ember.systems> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p>Hey Richard,</p>
<p>Unfortunately that is not how the 1E works. Only one of the
special memory boards with the custom P2 cable will work.</p>
<p>Do the sun 3e boards use a special cable or just the standard VME
bus? If standard VME you can map them in manually but they will
exist in IO (aka obio or "type 1") space and won't be cacheable.</p>
<p>The custom P2 cable carries the remaining signals to detect
memory space accesses similar to the 'SBus Expansion Connector" on
SS1/SS2 to use the special SBus memory boards.</p>
<p>Sorry to disappoint,<br>
Ethan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/23/22 17:29, Richard wrote:<br>
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Sadly they are all I have…I was working on the theory that owners
of the 3/E would have upgraded to the 4/E without issue.
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<div>Much like the 3/260 to 4/260 upgrade I did back in the day.
Remove old cpu board insert new COU board, install fresh OS and
keep using all the memory boards etc.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 23 May 2022, at 17:11, Plamen
Mihaylov <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:plamenspam@afterpeople.com"><plamenspam@afterpeople.com></a> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Richard,
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Maybe there is incompatibility between 3E and 1E mem
boards when they are stacked. Do you have 4E60-16 or/and
501-8060 to test ?</div>
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<div>Best regards,<br>
Plamen</div>
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9:46 AM Richard <<a href="mailto:ejb@trick-1.net" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ejb@trick-1.net</a>>
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<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Hi Plamen
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<div>Manual indicates that multiple are supported</div>
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<div><a href="http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/sun/sparc/800-8137-02_The_SPARCengine_1E_CPU_Card_Users_Manual_Apr90.pdf" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/sun/sparc/800-8137-02_The_SPARCengine_1E_CPU_Card_Users_Manual_Apr90.pdf</a></div>
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<div>See pages 36 and 37…..</div>
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<div>Hi Richard,
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<div>I don’t sparcengine 1E is designed to
handle 2 memory boards.</div>
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<div>Best regards,</div>
<div>Plamen</div>
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi
folks<br>
<br>
Looking for some suggestions/guidance or
help.<br>
<br>
I am Looking to add 2x 4Mb Sun 3/E memory
boards to the SPARCEngine 1E.<br>
<br>
I do note that these are memory boards
from the Sun3/E but am of the
understanding that they will work.<br>
<br>
Reading through the SPARCEngine manual I
have added the jumpers to my schroff
Backplane to bridge slot 2 as this is
empty - the sbus video card occupies the
slot.<br>
<br>
Configuration is<br>
Slot1: SPARCEngine<br>
Slot2: jumpered and empty<br>
Slot3: 4Mb memory bord jumpered for 4-8MB<br>
Slot4: 4Mb memory bord jumpered for
8-12Mb.<br>
<br>
Now on post I don’t see the extra 8mb.<br>
<br>
Anyone got any ideas ? I read something
about telling the nvram about the VME
cards but not familiar with that process
or how to do so.<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance <br>
<br>
Richard <br>
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