<html theme="default-light" iconset="color"><head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
</head><body text="#000000">It appears Sun actually sold an adapter to
use the Model 4 keyboard on the Sun 3, part numbers are<br>
<br>
<div data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">530-1478</div>
<div>530-1479<br>
<br>
Same cable, different lengths. I've also found the pinouts to make my
own; I have some 9-pin male shells and I'll probably liberate the female
DIN-8 connector from a trashed keyboard to make the adapter.<br>
<br>
I will start small with serial connection first. Will also need to
research how to get this guy net-booted and eventually an install on a
drive in the shoebox. I'm not holding out hope of getting anything done
with the tape drive or tapes.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<span>
</span><br>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:202309110359.XAA21622@Stone.Rodents-Montreal.ORG"
style="border: 0px none ! important;">
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" class="__pbConvHr"
style="margin:30px 25px 10px 25px;"><div
style="width:100%;border-top:2px solid
rgba(146,154,163,0.7);padding-top:10px;"> <div
style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:49%;">
<a style="color:#485664
!important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;text-decoration:none
!important;" href="mailto:rescue@sunhelp.org" moz-do-not-send="true">Mouse
via rescue</a></div> <div
style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:
right;"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">September
10, 2023 at 10:59 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" class="__pbConvBody"
__pbrmquotes="true"
style="color:#909AA4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;"><blockquote
type="cite"><pre wrap="">Lucky me scored a 3/50 at VCFMW this weekend!
</pre></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Unfortunately, there was no keyboard or mouse with the system. I
quick google didn't turn up any info on options/adapters/etc (though
I've only been home for a while and haven't really dug in yet).
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap="">Its keyboard is a 1200 baud serial device, just using TTL voltage
levels instead of RS-232 voltage levels, and it's a ridiculously simple
protocol. If you can get keyboard events off something else, and
they're at even moderately similar, it's relatively easy to generate
Sun keyboard protocol.
I've heard it said that there are adapters between USB keyboard and Sun
keyboard, but if you're looking for that you have to be careful _which_
Sun keyboard; you want the Sun-3 or earlier Sun-4 keyboard, the one
with the miniDIN-8 connector[%]. You also have to be careful which
direction the adapter in question is designed to go: Sun keyboard on
USB machine, or the other way around?
[%] The -3/50 uses a DA-15, not a miniDIN-8. But the Sun keyboards
that speak DA-15 and the ones that speak miniDIN-8 are compatible
enough that you can plug either kind of keyboard into the other kind of
machine with nothing but a passive adapter.
</pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Serial is of course an option, and likely how I'll start out once I
get everything cleaned up and inspected.
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap="">It's what I'd suggest for the first few attempts, certainly.
/~\ The ASCII Mouse
\ / Ribbon Campaign
X Against HTML <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mouse@rodents-montreal.org">mouse@rodents-montreal.org</a>
/ \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B
_______________________________________________
rescue list - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue_sunhelp.org">http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue_sunhelp.org</a>
</pre>
</div>
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" class="__pbConvHr"
style="margin:30px 25px 10px 25px;"><div
style="width:100%;border-top:2px solid
rgba(146,154,163,0.7);padding-top:10px;"> <div
style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:49%;">
<a style="color:#485664
!important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;text-decoration:none
!important;" href="mailto:steve.hatle@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Steve
Hatle</a></div> <div
style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:
right;"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">September
10, 2023 at 9:50 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" class="__pbConvBody"
__pbrmquotes="true"
style="color:#909AA4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;">Lucky me
scored a 3/50 at VCFMW this weekend!
<br>
<br>Unfortunately, there was no keyboard or mouse with the system. I
quick
google didn't turn up any info on options/adapters/etc (though I've only
been home for a while and haven't really dug in yet).
<br>
<br>Serial is of course an option, and likely how I'll start out once I
get
everything cleaned up and inspected.
<br>
<br>Hoping the monitor still has it's mojo going, but baby steps...
<br>
<br>Thanks for any info or advice,
<br>
<br>Steve
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body></html>