<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title></title>
</head>
<body>
<div name="messageBodySection">
<div dir="auto">Same result.  It sounded like such a promising idea too!   Thx for the suggestion.</div>
</div>
<div name="messageSignatureSection"><br />
<div style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; text-decoration-thickness: initial; margin-top: 7px"><font style="font-size: 14px;">---</font></div>
<div style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; text-decoration-thickness: initial; margin-top: 7px; font-weight: bold"><font style="font-size: 16px;">Todd Vernon</font></div>
<div style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; text-decoration-thickness: initial; margin-top: 7px"><font style="font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal">Entrepreneur | Investor</font></div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-size:14px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; text-decoration-thickness: initial;margin-top: 7px; color: rgb(80, 0, 80);">Email: <a href="mailto:todd@toddvernon.com" target="_blank"><font style="font-size: 14px;">todd@toddvernon.com</font></a></div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-size:14px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; text-decoration-thickness: initial;margin-top: 7px; color: rgb(80, 0, 80);">LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddvernon/" target="_blank"><font style="font-size: 14px;">toddvernon</font></a></div>
</div>
<div name="messageReplySection">On Apr 5, 2024 at 3:20\u202fPM -0600, Jonathan Katz via rescue <rescue@sunhelp.org>, wrote:<br />
<blockquote type="cite" style="border-left-color: grey; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; margin: 5px 5px;padding-left: 10px;">
<div dir="auto">Wondering if you need a \u201cboot -vr\u201d since it\u2019s not rebuilding the device tree?<br clear="all" />
<br clear="all" />
<div>
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">-Jon<br />
+44 7792 149029</div>
</div>
</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div><br />
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 at 22:15, Todd Vernon via rescue <<a href="mailto:rescue@sunhelp.org">rescue@sunhelp.org</a>> wrote:<br /></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the reply.  Yeah, the boot -v the only reason I know the last thing that prints out is "using default device instance data\u201d.  If you don\u2019t use the -v you don\u2019t see that message.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br /></div>
<div dir="ltr">I\u2019ve done it with drag-switch true and false. I\u2019ve watched the serial port for any other messages as well.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br /></div>
<div dir="ltr">-t</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br /></div>
<div dir="ltr"><br />
<div>
<div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
<div dir="ltr">
<div style="font-size:medium;margin-top:0px">
<div style="margin-top:0px;font-weight:bold">
<div style="margin-top:0px">
<div style="margin-top:0px">
<div style="margin-top:0px"><font style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Todd Vernon</font></div>
<div style="font-weight:normal;margin-top:0px"><font style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Entrepreneur | Investor</font></div>
<div style="font-weight:400;font-size:13px;margin-top:0px;color:rgb(80,0,80)">Email: <a href="mailto:todd@toddvernon.com" target="_blank">todd@toddvernon.com</a></div>
<div style="font-weight:400;font-size:13px;margin-top:0px;color:rgb(80,0,80)">LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddvernon/" target="_blank">toddvernon</a></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br /></div>
<br />
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:59:02\u202fPM, Johan van Zanten <<a href="mailto:johanvz978@giantfoo.org" target="_blank">johanvz978@giantfoo.org</a>> wrote:<br /></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)" type="cite">
<div>
<div><br />
Hello,<br />
<br />
Back in the chain of replies, i think someone asked if you'd "booted the<br />
machine with the diag-switch" but i didn't see a reply.<br />
<br />
That's explained a bit on page number 37 "Controlling Power-on Self-test"<br />
of this:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19457-01/801-7042/801-7042.pdf" target="_blank">https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19457-01/801-7042/801-7042.pdf</a><br />
<br />
(Which counting from the start of the PDF is the 57th page.)<br />
<br />
"boot -v" might also reveal some more details around where it's hanging?<br />
<br />
best, johan<br />
<br />
<br />
Todd Vernon via rescue <<a href="mailto:rescue@sunhelp.org" target="_blank">rescue@sunhelp.org</a>> wrote:<br />
<blockquote type="cite">The CD that im using were burned at home.  Same for the NetBSD CD that works<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">fine.  The Iso files im using on Zulu have been used many times on my other<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">Sun Workstations (all 32bit).  Just to check I redownloaded another iso.Â<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">Same thing.  Itâ\u20ac\u2122s 100% repeatable and always at exactly the same point be it<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">2.7 or 7.  Very strange.<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">-t<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">Todd Vernon<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">Entrepreneur | Investor<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">Email: <a href="mailto:todd@toddvernon.com" target="_blank">todd@toddvernon.com</a><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">LinkedIn: toddvernon<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">On Apr 4, 2024 at 11:11:24â\u20ac¯AM, William Barnett-Lewis via rescue<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:rescue@sunhelp.org" target="_blank">rescue@sunhelp.org</a>> wrote:<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">     Are you using a Sun or home burned CD? I have had odd failures like<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">     this with a bad burn of an ISO.<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">     On Thu, Apr 4, 2024, 10:01 Todd Vernon via rescue<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">     <<a href="mailto:rescue@sunhelp.org" target="_blank">rescue@sunhelp.org</a>> wrote:<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          Agree that NetBSD is ignoring something that Solaris is<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          not.  I feel like the last message in the boot before it<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          hangs is a clue,<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          "using default device instance dataâ\u20ac<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          Im not exactly sure what that means so I reset the IDProm<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          and reprogrammed it using 80 as the machine type but no<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          luck.  Im not even completely sure that â\u20ac\u0153default device<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          instance dataâ\u20ac  is what is stored in there but some google<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          searches seem to be tied to that. Â<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          NetBSD boot seems completely normal with no warnings or<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          messages I would not expect. Â<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          Iâ\u20ac\u2122ve moved all the sims around and removed different sets<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          and like clockwork it always hangs at the same place so im<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          pretty sure its not a memory issue.<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          Im down to just the CDROM drive or just the Zulu to take<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          everything else off the SCSI bus.  Itâ\u20ac\u2122s a head<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          scratcher.<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          Thanks for the reply!<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          -t<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          Todd Vernon<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          Entrepreneur | Investor<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          Email: <a href="mailto:todd@toddvernon.com" target="_blank">todd@toddvernon.com</a><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          LinkedIn: toddvernon<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          On Apr 3, 2024 at 11:03:25â\u20ac¯PM, vom513 via rescue<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          <<a href="mailto:rescue@sunhelp.org" target="_blank">rescue@sunhelp.org</a>> wrote:<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               Apologies for asking the likely obvious - have<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               you booted this machine with diag-switch and let<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               it run through the tests ?<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               Since you have tried real CDs as well as ZuluSCSI<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               virtual, it sounds like perhaps something that<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               Solaris is â\u20ac\u0153touchingâ\u20ac  that NetBSD is not ?<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               Have you actually tried to follow all the way<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               through and install/run NetBSD ?<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               I guess a hail mary would be to start removing<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               hardware and components one by one and try a<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               Solaris boot after each step.<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               Sorry for the obvious things, just wanted to<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               reply with what I would try. Â<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               Please do let us know if you make progress or<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               figure out the root cause.<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               _______________________________________________<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               rescue list - <a href="http://sunhelp.org/mailman/" target="_blank">http://sunhelp.org/mailman/</a><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">               listinfo/<a href="http://rescue_sunhelp.org" target="_blank">rescue_sunhelp.org</a><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          _______________________________________________<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          rescue list - <a href="http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/" target="_blank">http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/</a><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">          <a href="http://rescue_sunhelp.org" target="_blank">rescue_sunhelp.org</a><br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">     _______________________________________________<br /></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">     rescue list - <a href="http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue_sunhelp.org" target="_blank">http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue_sunhelp.org</a><br /></blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br />
rescue list - <a href="http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue_sunhelp.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue_sunhelp.org</a><br /></blockquote>
</div>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br />
rescue list - http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue_sunhelp.org<br /></blockquote>
</div>
</body>
</html>