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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Long time follower – first time poster to this list. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Not sure if this perhaps strays too far from the topic, but I’m with a university and my department is liquidating our vintage-ish Sun collection. We have a ton of 20”L204FY LCD screens give away. Picture: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pxb1T7cWjzTkaYrxVyCx4w9TJudsT8ZM/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pxb1T7cWjzTkaYrxVyCx4w9TJudsT8ZM/view?usp=sharing</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt'>Label: </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/15TwfxG3we155H53mraBq7PrRdpz0SxpQ/view?usp=drive_link"><span lang=DE>https://drive.google.com/file/d/15TwfxG3we155H53mraBq7PrRdpz0SxpQ/view?usp=drive_link</span></a></span><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>We also have one Model AI24PO, and a whole host of SunRay Gen1 and Gen2, Type 6 and 7 Keyboards, and some Mice, and some servers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Free to anyone who’s willing to come by and pick up in Central New York. We may ask for a donation to our student fund, 100% of proceeds will to go students. If this list is interested, I can post more details.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Any interest?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Bastian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A6A6A6'>__________________________________<br></span></b><a href="http://www.oswego.edu/"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=96 height=33 style='width:1.0in;height:.3437in' id="Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image001.png@01DA8B57.09164140" alt="NY Oswego"></span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#17365D'><br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#17365D'>Dr. Bastian Tenbergen <br></span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'>Associate Professor of Software Engineering<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#16365D'>Office Hours:</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'> <a href="https://bit.ly/tenbergen-office-hours-signup"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://bit.ly/tenbergen-office-hours-signup</span></a> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'><br><br>Department of Computer Science<br>427 Shineman Center<br><b>State University of New York at Oswego<br></b>7060 State Route 104</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'>Oswego, NY, 13126, USA</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'>T +1 (315) 312-6605</span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy'><br></span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'>E </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:bastian.tenbergen@oswego.edu" title="mailto:bastian.tenbergen@oswego.edu"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0563C1'>bastian.tenbergen@oswego.edu</span></a></span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.tenbergen.org/"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0563C1'>www.tenbergen.org</span></a></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://twitter.com/BTenbergen"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=24 height=24 style='width:.25in;height:.25in' id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image002.png@01DA8B57.09164140" alt=1aa3ae-22f4-4ed9-bfd4-35cb8d8633b6></span></a><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bastian_Tenbergen"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=21 height=21 style='width:.2187in;height:.2187in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image003.png@01DA8B57.09164140" alt=-trans></span></a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=24491293"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=24 height=24 style='width:.25in;height:.25in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image004.png@01DA8B57.09164140" alt=24d431-b33f-4266-8e00-6ec431907477></span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I do my best to answer your emails quickly during normal business hours (M-F, 8am-5pm EST), but perhaps not outside of that time. I encourage you to do the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121'></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#212121'>Look here! This ending quote is witty<br>Adorns this email so pretty<br>The perfect disguise<br>To prevent you realize<br>That the rest of this message is sh… not as clever. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On 4/10/24, 14:50, "rescue" <rescue-bounces@sunhelp.org> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 4:07<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>AM silcreval via rescue <<a href="mailto:rescue@sunhelp.org">rescue@sunhelp.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> I've collected Sun machines for a very long time now, and still use them regularly.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> One thing I like to do is assemble systems with appropriate monitors/keyboards where I can. So if I'm using an Sparcstation 20 I like to have the keyboard/mouse and CRT monitor that would have been around a the time.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> If I'm using a Sun Blade 2000 then I will go with a Sun LCD monitor of the time.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> I wonder if anyone else does this - or do you go with newer LCD screens for convenience? As I used these systems commercially back in the 90s and 00s, and even as late as the 10s, I get more of the 'ambience' of the time if I'm using a CRT say rather than a 4K monitor 'scaling' the video on a 32" screen :)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Relative to my computer collection, I have probably a 50:1 ratio of<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>period correct monitors. I wish it were higher but the collection<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>originally started in my home so it never even crossed my mind to try<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>to acquire the CRTs, When they were common.. considered e-waste<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>people might have had to pay to dispose of them instead of the<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>collectable status. Now that I have a dedicated facility, of course<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>everything is much harder to find :)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am grateful for the ease at which we can build things like keyboard<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and video converters with modern electronics. And it's often already<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>done by the community.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> One system I'd like to recreate is an Ultra 45 with what I believe would have been the monitor at the time - aka the 365-1434, a 24.1" LCD monitor which had two legs at each end of the monitor. It was probably unusual at the time as most monitors have just the central stand.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> These for whatever reason are hard to find in the UK, and the systems I see in the US are often cheap (<$100) but require a big spend on postage (aka $200) which together with import duty which will be added on all that makes it ridiculous.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> Does anyone know a source for these in the UK? I've seen a few from time to time.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> Just FYI - I've started putting together some photographs of systems with matching monitors/keyboards etc and will probably upload them somewhere if anyone is interested.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> - Ian<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>> rescue list - <a href="http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue_sunhelp.org">http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue_sunhelp.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>rescue list - <a href="http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue_sunhelp.org">http://sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue_sunhelp.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>