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number of desktops that have the correct TPM, UEFI/Secure Boot, etc. but
are 7th Gen CPUs, which fail the Win 11 compatibility tests.<br>
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We can install 11 OK, and it runs fine with TPM and SecureBoot enabled
(and some RAM upgrades), but our loss insurance would not cover us if
there was any kind of breach or ransomware attack that involved these
"non-compliant" machines.<br>
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So we are in the midst of replacing a bunch of machines that don't
really need replacing due to performance issues, but is necessary for
liability issues. Win 11 installer does not complain about these
machines at all during install or updating in our controlled tests.<br>
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Upgrading this hardware is probably the right thing to do in the long
run, but it seems somewhat arbitrary; we would rather let them age out
for other reasons. <br>
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couple 'old' Dell T30 servers that had an updatable TPM on the MB. With a
simple firmware update the on-board TPM chip was upgraded to 2.0, and
Win 11 could be installed without compromise.<div><br></div><div>I was
very surprised to see that, as it breathed new life into those otherwise
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dir="auto">It's worth pointing out that Microsoft notified all OEMs in
January 2016 that from April 2016 onwards (ie 2 years after the TPM 2.0
spec was published), computers would only be able to be shipped with
Windows preinstalled if they were TPM-2 capable, although for a couple
of years OEMs would be allowed to have it default to disabled in BIOS
(but that in all cases it *must* remain enable-able in the BIOS menus).<br><br>As
always with OEMs, many flouted their contract with Microsoft regarding
this. At least *some* of the TPM-requirements-anger should be directed
at them. Admittedly, MS might have jumped slightly early, but they had
been warning OEMs several times during 2015.<br><br>- Mike<br><br></div><br><br>
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