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<p>gods that would be ideal. We're in NZ, and NZ never liked Sun
gear. We have access to the gcc buildfarm, but we don't have root
on those and we need root for what we're doing. Are there any
packages that folks on this list would like to see for Solaris 10
SPARC? Right now we're currently rebuilding GCC, after we made a
stupid mistake. We will be shipping:<br>
gcc (FractalKit release 25.5.0) 9.5.0
(kdsp-sol210-9_5-branch+fractal_rpath)</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/31/2025 19:59, Alexander Jacocks
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<div>Too bad that there's no economical way to ship to Australia
from the USA. I have some sun4v hosts available freely for
free software porting.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, May 31, 2025 at
5:26 PM Freya Fractal via rescue <<a
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<p>ah. update: that Solaris 10 image.... boots, yes. but if
we're right it is read-only and networking doesn't work.
significantly less than ideal</p>
<div>On 5/31/2025 11:10, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">It may sound heretical but you can use the
QEMU emulator to emulate a Niagara CPU and then run your
selected version of Solaris on that. </div>
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<div dir="auto">See for instance the info about the
Niagara CPU booting Solaris 10, bottom of the table:</div>
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<div dir="auto">I bet giving it 16GB RAM would be a way to
test out your build process, provided you have a x64
system with 24-32GB.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 30, 2025
at 11:51 PM Freya Fractal <<a
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<p>not as yet, no. we own <a
href="http://highenergymagic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">highenergymagic.net</a>,
but we hadn't put up anything there about it
as-yet, mostly because it's only now that we're
really taking it seriously. It originally
started as just us seeing if things would
compile, and expanded massively... we later
realised that we had broken the build in such a
way that it is highly likely that many of the
important packages would have undesired links to
libraries (many of them 32-bit) in /opt/csw,
which is suboptimal, as the intent of this
package is that it is able to be installed on a
clean Solaris 10u11 1/13 system. If proof is
required of what we have created, we are able to
provide the copy of FractalKit that we archived
when we started the project over, but be aware
that it's an organically expanding mess, none of
the binaries and packages are signed and much of
the porting was done in a very inexperienced
manner. The current plan for FractalKit 25 is to
build everything 64-bit clean, with no links to
OpenCSW libraries, with signed ELF binaries and
each component offered as a signed SVR4 package
datastream. extended goals are to distribute
this as an ISO image that can be burnt to a DVD
and can be installed alongside Solaris at the
"install additional software" step of the
installer, if we can figure out how the Solaris
installer expects the DVD's hierarchy to be
arranged.</p>
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<div>On 5/30/2025 21:43, Patrick Giagnocavo via
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project on the web; do you have a website?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May
30, 2025 at 11:12 PM Freya Fractal via
rescue <<a
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<br>
Like the subject line says. We're looking to
see if anyone in <br>
NZ/Australia has a SPARC (sun4u/sun4v)
machine they'd be willing to <br>
donate to the FractalKit project. FractalKit
is a collection of modern <br>
packages for Solaris 10/11 on SPARC,
covering web servers (Nginx 1.28, <br>
Apache 2.4.62), security (OpenSSL 3.4.0,
GnuTLS 3.7), shell utilities <br>
(coreutils 9.5, bash 5.3, zsh 5.9), tcsh),
programming languages (PHP <br>
8.4.1, Ruby 3.2.3, Perl 5.40.0, python
3.13), libraries and development <br>
tools (too many to list), compilers (GCC
9.5.0 C, C++, fortran, <br>
objective C), databases (SQLite 3.44.3,
PostgreSQL 15.8, MariaDB if we <br>
can get it to build), editors (nano 8.4, vim
9.1), and replacements for <br>
network-facing services (primarily OpenSSH)
that need to be kept <br>
up-to-date, especially for those lacking
MOS/Sunsolve access. we're <br>
currently rebuilding the entire project from
scratch after realising we <br>
made some fatal errors, but we can send, on
request, the full previous <br>
build of FractalKit as a demonstration.
However, we've run into a <br>
problem: The only SPARC machine we have is a
Sun Blade 150, with a <br>
650MHz UltraSPARC-IIe, 768MiB of ram, and an
IDE hard disk. Does it <br>
compile things? Yes. Does it also take in
excess of 24 hours to build <br>
something like gcc? also yes. So we're
looking for a bit of SPARC kit, <br>
preferably SUN4V, that one of yall lovely
entities would be willing to <br>
send to us to help advance the project.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thank you in advance,<br>
<br>
<br>
Freya<br>
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