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    <p>ah. update: that Solaris 10 image.... boots, yes. but if we're
      right it is read-only and networking doesn't work. significantly
      less than ideal</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/31/2025 11:10, Patrick Giagnocavo
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">It may sound heretical but you can use the QEMU
        emulator to emulate a Niagara CPU and then run your selected
        version of Solaris on that. </div>
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      <div dir="auto">See for instance the info about the Niagara CPU
        booting Solaris 10, bottom of the table:</div>
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        <div><a
            href="https://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Platforms/SPARC"
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      <div dir="auto">I bet giving it 16GB RAM would be a way to test
        out your build process, provided you have a x64 system with
        24-32GB.</div>
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      <div dir="auto">—Patrick </div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 30, 2025 at
            11:51 PM Freya Fractal <<a
              href="mailto:freya@highenergymagic.net"
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            wrote:<br>
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              <p>not as yet, no. we own <a
                  href="http://highenergymagic.net" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">highenergymagic.net</a>, but we
                hadn't put up anything there about it as-yet, mostly
                because it's only now that we're really taking it
                seriously. It originally started as just us seeing if
                things would compile, and expanded massively... we later
                realised that we had broken the build in such a way that
                it is highly likely that many of the important packages
                would have undesired links to libraries (many of them
                32-bit) in /opt/csw, which is suboptimal, as the intent
                of this package is that it is able to be installed on a
                clean Solaris 10u11 1/13 system. If proof is required of
                what we have created, we are able to provide the copy of
                FractalKit that we archived when we started the project
                over, but be aware that it's an organically expanding
                mess, none of the binaries and packages are signed and
                much of the porting was done in a very inexperienced
                manner. The current plan for FractalKit 25 is to build
                everything 64-bit clean, with no links to OpenCSW
                libraries, with signed ELF binaries and each component
                offered as a signed SVR4 package datastream. extended
                goals are to distribute this as an ISO image that can be
                burnt to a DVD and can be installed alongside Solaris at
                the "install additional software" step of the installer,
                if we can figure out how the Solaris installer expects
                the DVD's hierarchy to be arranged.</p>
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              <div>On 5/30/2025 21:43, Patrick Giagnocavo via rescue
                wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">I can't find anything about your project
                  on the web; do you have a website?</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 30, 2025
                    at 11:12 PM Freya Fractal via rescue <<a
                      href="mailto:rescue@sunhelp.org" target="_blank"
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                    wrote:<br>
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                    <br>
                    <br>
                    Like the subject line says. We're looking to see if
                    anyone in <br>
                    NZ/Australia has a SPARC (sun4u/sun4v) machine
                    they'd be willing to <br>
                    donate to the FractalKit project. FractalKit is a
                    collection of modern <br>
                    packages for Solaris 10/11 on SPARC, covering web
                    servers (Nginx 1.28, <br>
                    Apache 2.4.62), security (OpenSSL 3.4.0, GnuTLS
                    3.7), shell utilities <br>
                    (coreutils 9.5, bash 5.3, zsh 5.9), tcsh),
                    programming languages (PHP <br>
                    8.4.1, Ruby 3.2.3, Perl 5.40.0, python 3.13),
                    libraries and development <br>
                    tools (too many to list), compilers (GCC 9.5.0 C,
                    C++, fortran, <br>
                    objective C), databases (SQLite 3.44.3, PostgreSQL
                    15.8, MariaDB if we <br>
                    can get it to build), editors (nano 8.4, vim 9.1),
                    and replacements for <br>
                    network-facing services (primarily OpenSSH) that
                    need to be kept <br>
                    up-to-date, especially for those lacking
                    MOS/Sunsolve access. we're <br>
                    currently rebuilding the entire project from scratch
                    after realising we <br>
                    made some fatal errors, but we can send, on request,
                    the full previous <br>
                    build of FractalKit as a demonstration. However,
                    we've run into a <br>
                    problem: The only SPARC machine we have is a Sun
                    Blade 150, with a <br>
                    650MHz UltraSPARC-IIe, 768MiB of ram, and an IDE
                    hard disk. Does it <br>
                    compile things? Yes. Does it also take in excess of
                    24 hours to build <br>
                    something like gcc? also yes. So we're looking for a
                    bit of SPARC kit, <br>
                    preferably SUN4V, that one of yall lovely entities
                    would be willing to <br>
                    send to us to help advance the project.<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    Thank you in advance,<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    Freya<br>
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