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<p>that would be, we suspect, slower than doing it on native
hardware. We have native hardware, but it's a Sun Blade 150. We're
not just looking for a SPARC64 machine at all, we're looking for a
better one so builds don't take a thousand years.</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/31/2025 11:10, Patrick Giagnocavo
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<div dir="auto">It may sound heretical but you can use the QEMU
emulator to emulate a Niagara CPU and then run your selected
version of Solaris on that. </div>
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<div dir="auto">See for instance the info about the Niagara CPU
booting Solaris 10, bottom of the table:</div>
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<div dir="auto">I bet giving it 16GB RAM would be a way to test
out your build process, provided you have a x64 system with
24-32GB.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 30, 2025 at
11:51 PM Freya Fractal <<a
href="mailto:freya@highenergymagic.net"
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<p>not as yet, no. we own <a
href="http://highenergymagic.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">highenergymagic.net</a>, but we
hadn't put up anything there about it as-yet, mostly
because it's only now that we're really taking it
seriously. It originally started as just us seeing if
things would compile, and expanded massively... we later
realised that we had broken the build in such a way that
it is highly likely that many of the important packages
would have undesired links to libraries (many of them
32-bit) in /opt/csw, which is suboptimal, as the intent
of this package is that it is able to be installed on a
clean Solaris 10u11 1/13 system. If proof is required of
what we have created, we are able to provide the copy of
FractalKit that we archived when we started the project
over, but be aware that it's an organically expanding
mess, none of the binaries and packages are signed and
much of the porting was done in a very inexperienced
manner. The current plan for FractalKit 25 is to build
everything 64-bit clean, with no links to OpenCSW
libraries, with signed ELF binaries and each component
offered as a signed SVR4 package datastream. extended
goals are to distribute this as an ISO image that can be
burnt to a DVD and can be installed alongside Solaris at
the "install additional software" step of the installer,
if we can figure out how the Solaris installer expects
the DVD's hierarchy to be arranged.</p>
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<div>On 5/30/2025 21:43, Patrick Giagnocavo via rescue
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<div dir="ltr">I can't find anything about your project
on the web; do you have a website?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 30, 2025
at 11:12 PM Freya Fractal via rescue <<a
href="mailto:rescue@sunhelp.org" target="_blank"
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">Hiya,<br>
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<br>
Like the subject line says. We're looking to see if
anyone in <br>
NZ/Australia has a SPARC (sun4u/sun4v) machine
they'd be willing to <br>
donate to the FractalKit project. FractalKit is a
collection of modern <br>
packages for Solaris 10/11 on SPARC, covering web
servers (Nginx 1.28, <br>
Apache 2.4.62), security (OpenSSL 3.4.0, GnuTLS
3.7), shell utilities <br>
(coreutils 9.5, bash 5.3, zsh 5.9), tcsh),
programming languages (PHP <br>
8.4.1, Ruby 3.2.3, Perl 5.40.0, python 3.13),
libraries and development <br>
tools (too many to list), compilers (GCC 9.5.0 C,
C++, fortran, <br>
objective C), databases (SQLite 3.44.3, PostgreSQL
15.8, MariaDB if we <br>
can get it to build), editors (nano 8.4, vim 9.1),
and replacements for <br>
network-facing services (primarily OpenSSH) that
need to be kept <br>
up-to-date, especially for those lacking
MOS/Sunsolve access. we're <br>
currently rebuilding the entire project from scratch
after realising we <br>
made some fatal errors, but we can send, on request,
the full previous <br>
build of FractalKit as a demonstration. However,
we've run into a <br>
problem: The only SPARC machine we have is a Sun
Blade 150, with a <br>
650MHz UltraSPARC-IIe, 768MiB of ram, and an IDE
hard disk. Does it <br>
compile things? Yes. Does it also take in excess of
24 hours to build <br>
something like gcc? also yes. So we're looking for a
bit of SPARC kit, <br>
preferably SUN4V, that one of yall lovely entities
would be willing to <br>
send to us to help advance the project.<br>
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<br>
Thank you in advance,<br>
<br>
<br>
Freya<br>
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