<div dir="auto">Can you use a command line client like openssl s_client to check the certificates? If a chained certificate it has to have the intermediate certificate in a particular order.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 11:30\u202fAM Phil Stracchino via rescue &lt;<a href="mailto:rescue@sunhelp.org">rescue@sunhelp.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">On 7/18/25 11:48, Stuff Received via rescue wrote:<br>
&gt; On 2025-07-18 11:03, Phil Stracchino via rescue wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; On 7/18/25 10:33, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Surprisingly, <a href="http://search.brave.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">search.brave.com</a> returns a useful result with their<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; blended &quot;text snippets across sites&quot; / &quot;AI&quot; feature.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Searching for &quot;mutt ignore certificate s/mime&quot; will get you links to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; discussions of the problem and how to fix it.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hmm ...  that only got me one useful-looking link I hadn&#39;t already<br>
&gt;&gt; found, to a 15-year-old discussion about mutt 1.5, and the one new<br>
&gt;&gt; suggestion it had to offer had no effect on the problem.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; This may be redundant but I searched with duckduck.go and the following<br>
&gt; were returned:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a href="https://superuser.com/questions/614985/in-mutt-how-to-extract-key-from-a-s-mime-signed-message-to-reply-encrypted" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://superuser.com/questions/614985/in-mutt-how-to-extract-key-from-a-s-mime-signed-message-to-reply-encrypted</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a href="http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#enc-smime" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#enc-smime</a><br>
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Yeah, I&#39;m not even trying to extract the key at this point, only to <br>
verify the signature.  As far as I can tell, it is FUNCTIONALLY working, <br>
except that I suspect something in the chain disbelieves in the validity <br>
of the certificate.  And I&#39;ve followed the instructions for setting up <br>
that trust ... and it still doesn&#39;t work.<br>
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-- <br>
   Phil Stracchino<br>
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