[SunHELP] ping a port

Adam Kropelin sunhelp at sunhelp.org
Fri Sep 21 09:20:16 CDT 2001


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Heh, AFAIK, it means "As far as I know" (which sometimes isn't all that far.
 
By the way, are messages from me coming out in HTML or some crap like that?
I admit to using Outlook (I'm at work...) and though I've got the fscking
thing set to plain text in two different places (and messages appear to be
plain when they go out), when it comes back the text is proportional and
smells very non-plain.
 
--Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: David Baldwin [mailto:dbaldwin at networkinsight.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:07 AM
To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
Subject: RE: [SunHELP] ping a port


I had read that and came to that conclusion.  But, what on earth does AFAIK
mean? This is the 3rd or 4th time I've seen that.
Dave
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Kropelin [mailto:Adam.Kropelin at netlinkaccess.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:05 AM
To: 'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'
Subject: RE: [SunHELP] ping a port
 
AFAIK, there is no such thing as a port in ICMP. ICMP packets are
demultiplexed by IP based on the value of the protocol field in the IP
header. The network stack is what responds to a PING (really an ICMP echo
request packet), not any particular application.
--Adam 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Thomas Cameron [mailto:archimage at linux-magic.com
<mailto:archimage at linux-magic.com> ] 
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:35 AM 
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org 
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] ping a port 
> 
> 
> I don't think ping can hit any port other than the standard 
> ICMP port that it queries. 
> 
> Thomas 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Baldwin" <dbaldwin at networkinsight.com> 
> To: <sunhelp at sunhelp.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:55 PM 
> Subject: [SunHELP] ping a port 
> 
> 
> > Hi all, 
> > I am trying to find out how I can ping an ip through a 
> certain port on 
> > a firewall.  As a test I tried to telnet to the port on the system 
> > with "telnet x.x.x.x port#" and it failed.  But if I try 
> "ping x.x.x.x 
> > port#" it goes through.  ICMP is allowed on its default 
> port but how 
> > can I change the port it tries? 
> > 
> > This is for standard "service alive?" checking. 
> > 
> > Thanks for any suggestions. 
> > 
> > Dave Baldwin 
> > _______________________________________________ 
> > SunHELP maillist  -  SunHELP at sunhelp.org 
> > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sunhelp
<http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sunhelp>  
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________ 
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Heh,=20
AFAIK, it means "As far as I know" (which sometimes isn't all that=20
far.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D665261114-21092001><FONT face=3DArial =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D665261114-21092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>By the=20
way, are messages from me coming out in HTML or some crap =
like that? I=20
admit to using Outlook (I'm at work...) and though I've got the fscking =
thing=20
set to plain text in two different places (and messages =
appear to be=20
plain when they go out), when it comes back the text is =
proportional and=20
smells very non-plain.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D665261114-21092001><FONT face=3DArial =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D665261114-21092001><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2>--Adam</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
David Baldwin=20
  [mailto:dbaldwin at networkinsight.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, =
September 21,=20
  2001 10:07 AM<BR><B>To:</B> sunhelp at sunhelp.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
RE:=20
  [SunHELP] ping a port<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
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that and=20
  came to that conclusion.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  =
</SPAN>But,=20
  what on earth does AFAIK mean? This is the 3<SUP>rd</SUP> or =
4<SUP>th</SUP>=20
  time I've seen that.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
Adam=20
  Kropelin [mailto:Adam.Kropelin at netlinkaccess.com] <BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, September 21, =
2001 7:05=20
  AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
  'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [SunHELP] ping a=20
  port</SPAN></FONT></P>
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  <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">AFAIK, there is no such thing as a port in =
ICMP. ICMP=20
  packets are demultiplexed by IP based on the value of the protocol =
field in=20
  the IP header. The network stack is what responds to a PING (really =
an ICMP=20
  echo request packet), not any particular=20
  application.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">--Adam</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> -----Original =
Message-----</SPAN></FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> From: Thomas =
Cameron [<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:archimage at linux-magic.com">mailto:archimage at linux-magic.c=
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  Friday, September 21, 2001 9:35 AM</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT =
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org</SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] =
ping a=20
  port</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">>=20
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I don't=20
  think ping can hit any port other than the standard =
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  Thomas</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
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  Original Message -----</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> From: "David Baldwin"=20
  <dbaldwin at networkinsight.com></SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT =
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> To: =
<sunhelp at sunhelp.org></SPAN></FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Sent: =
Thursday, September=20
  20, 2001 12:55 PM</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
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  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT =
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > Hi all,</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT =
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > I am trying to find out how I can =
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  certain port on </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > a firewall.  As a test I =
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  telnet to the port on the system </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT =
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > with "telnet x.x.x.x port#" and =
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  ICMP is allowed on its default </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =

  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> port but how </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT =
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  ></SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
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  This is for standard "service alive?" checking.</SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ></SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > Thanks for any=20
  suggestions.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
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  Dave Baldwin</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
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  > _______________________________________________</SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
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  _______________________________________________</SPAN></FONT> =
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