[SunRescue] Re: New SunBlade

[Chris Byrne]

That's true, I tend to forget about firewire. Not that there are finally
some good firewire peripherals avialable at a relativley decent price, that
may be a viable expansion alternative.

It's certainly making a huge splash in the Mac market, it would be nice to
see the same thing happen with the UNIX market, that way we can finally get
some of the same goodies as other "normal" computer users.

Referring to Bills post about PCI cards, the same company that makes my PCI
usb card also makes a combo card with 2 usb ports on a full speed root hub,
and two firewire ports, all in one short 32 bit pci card...

Interesting possibilities if it could work. I'd have a U10 with Serial,
paralell, SCSI, IDE, USB, and IEEE1394 (firewire), plus the USB, serial, and
paralell ports on the SunPCI-II, and of course the two 10/100 ethernet ports
and the mini-din keyboard port.... Man that's a lot of connectivity

Chris Byrne

-----Original Message-----
From: rescue-admin at sunhelp.org [mailto:rescue-admin at sunhelp.org]On
Behalf Of nick at snowman.net
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 22:25
To: rescue at sunhelp.org
Subject: RE: [SunRescue] Re: New SunBlade


May I point out two very intresting connectors on the Blade 100.. The
first is a funny squareish-with a hat connector that looks sorta like
"=>", I personally love firewire as a way to attach drives, and other
toys.  They are a bit more expensive, but it's quite fast, and has most of
the bennies of SCSI without alot of the price.  The second connector I
wanted to point out is the other firewire connector <grin>.  Now
admittadly this dosen't solve the PCI shortage, however it solves the hd
shortage easily, and I'd even argue more.
	Nick


On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Chris Byrne wrote:

> Two things, expansion, and form factor
>
> I'll (excuse the horrid pun) expand here. The SB100 is an extremely good
> value, however it offers very little room for expansion. There are only
two
> drive bays, and it only offers PCI based graphics which would take up one
of
> its three slots. Also from what I have seen the pci slots are fairly
> cramped.
>
> The U10 on the other hand has four drive bays (trust me, a 3-1/2" drive
fits
> in the pcmcia card slot), offers UPA graphics, and there's plenty of room
> for cards, with FOUR slots, but the RAM options are a lot less flexible,
and
> a lot more expensive, and it doesn't have USB.
>
> Oh and there is the secondary issue of form factor. Desktop style machines
> take more desk real estate, which for some sites may be a big issue. Also
> desktop form factor machines can have more heat buildup issues since the
> components arejust a bit closer together. In particular the Ultra 5 has
had
> problems with the heat issue, even more so if you load the thing up with
> cards, and stick high performance drives in.
>
> So really it comes down to wherther the SB100 will meet your needs without
> expansion, or if you will need to make upgrades other than RAM or hard
> drives. If you need the extra expansion get the U10, otherwise the SB100
is
> great.
>
> Now what I really want to see is an SB100-like replacement for the U10
(only
> with more cache)
>
> Chris Byrne
> =======================================
> The eyes may be the windows on the soul
> But the word is the doorway to the mind
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>
> *I wish there was more room for cables though. I think Sun designed them
to
> make it intentionally difficult to connect drives to a scsi card by making
> cable routing hell
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rescue-admin at sunhelp.org [mailto:rescue-admin at sunhelp.org]On
> Behalf Of Paul Nguyen
> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 20:55
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: [SunRescue] Re: New SunBlade
>
>
> I am looking at picking up additional sun desktop machines and debating
> between the Ultra 10 and the new sunblade.  The U10 is more expensive but
we
> are used to maintaining them.  Does any one have any input of pros and
cons
> between the 2 machines?.
>
> Thanks
> Paul
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