[rescue] Disposable electronics is unsustainable - Re: rescue Digest, Vol 135, Issue 8

[Nick B]

Either your idea of "average" people is very different from mine, or you've
never done tech support...
I'm not sure I'd trust 1 in 10 people to solder, much less solder on a
modern multi-layer mostly-SMD board.
Nick


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM, hike <mh1272 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The skill set required to successfully repair the failed caps is limited to
> a small set of people these days.  Once, the average person could do this
> but not today.  I took electronics technology in high school but it was not
> a practical course like tv/radio/stereo repair courses.  I never learned to
> solder since I didnb t play with these things.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Lionel Peterson <lionel4287 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Yeah, the 'living wage' of the person that will replace that 18 cent
> > resistor or $2 handful of caps. I don't mean that as an attack on living
> > wages per se, but that is the barrier. If those handful of failed parts
> > were user-replaceable that would be one thing (think tube TVs and tube
> > testers in local stores), but that is not the case.
> >
> > Lionel
> >
> > On Thursday, February 13, 2014, Toby Thain <toby at telegraphics.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 13/02/14 2:09 AM, Mouse wrote:
> > >
> > >> The cost of repair for a small business is more than the cost of a
> > >>>>> new LCD monitor.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> That's completely dysfunctional and we should work to change it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >> By making new ones more expensive, or making repairs cheaper?  In
> > >> either case, how?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Both.
> > >
> > > A $100 (probably not a sustainable price, given that it's full of
> > > nonrenewables) screen that is held hostage by an 18c resistor (in one
> > case
> > > of a 24" Samsung that probably cost $400+) or $2 worth of caps ... does
> > > anyone see a problem here?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>  It might not even be true.  Peter just said he fixed a bunch.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Yes...at what cost?  I'm four for four, I think it is, at fixing LCD
> > >> flatscreens by re-capping. ...
> > >>
> > >> Yes, the current state is unsustainable in various ways.  But I have
> > >> trouble seeing any way it's likely to change short of actually running
> > >> into its unsustainability. ...
> > >>
> > >
> > > That's assured.
> > >
> > > Human nature's great, eh.
> > >
> > > --T
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