[rescue] Sorry to bother you
Анастасия Сенцова
crudehumour223 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 28 19:35:01 CDT 2020
Thank you everyone for your answers. Now I know what this all is about, but
forgive me because I have to ask another question. This is the first time
I've encountered this type of... forum? Discussion board? All situated
within an email client. How could I learn more about how this works? Sorry
to bother you with my off topic questions. Is there some kind of a home
page where everything is catalogued and sorted out? Or does the discussion
just progress with the only history left in older emails? Thanks
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 8:28 PM <rescue-request at sunhelp.org> wrote:
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> 2. Re: paging Jay York (Jay York)
> 3. Re: Help understand (William Barnett-Lewis)
> 4. Re: Help understand (Phil Stracchino)
> 5. Re: SunFire V490 FTGH - Minneapolis/St. Paul (Mark Linimon)
> 6. Re: SunFire V490 FTGH - Minneapolis/St. Paul (Will Enestvedt)
> 7. Re: SunFire V490 FTGH - Minneapolis/St. Paul (Bob Darlington)
> 8. Re: SunFire V490 FTGH - Minneapolis/St. Paul (Doug McIntyre)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 04:59:55 +0500
> From: ????????? ??????? <crudehumour223 at gmail.com>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: [rescue] Help understand
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> Hello could you please tell me what this rescue list is about?
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 20:04:34 -0400
> From: Jay York <jay_york at verizon.net>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] paging Jay York
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> Hey all, thanks, Dave and I are now in contact.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 19:42:08 -0500
> From: William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Help understand
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> First, do you understand the meaning of the word Rescue in english?
> Second, do you love old computers?
> When you can say yes to both of those, then do a 1 + 2 and you get the
> rescue list.
>
> We save computers other people would simply throw in the trash. I barely
> qualify here :D
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 7:00 PM P P=P0Q Q P0Q P8Q P!P5P=Q P>P2P0
> <crudehumour223 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > Hello could you please tell me what this rescue list is about?
> > _______________________________________________
> > rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue
> >
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>
> --
> Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance
> like no-one is watching.
> Alex White
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 21:20:06 -0400
> From: Phil Stracchino <phils at caerllewys.net>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Help understand
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> On 10/27/20 7:59 PM, P P=P0Q Q P0Q P8Q P!P5P=Q P>P2P0 wrote:
> > Hello could you please tell me what this rescue list is about?
> > _______________________________________________
> > rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue
>
>
> The short version is, we conspire to rescue outdated but interesting or
> significant computers from being scrapped, and preserve them for
> posterity and the education of future generations of computer geeks. We
> cover everything from deskside Unix workstations and early home
> computers to mainframes and supercomputers.
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> Babylon Communications
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> phil at co.ordinate.org
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> Mobile: +1.603.998.6958
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 03:44:00 +0000
> From: Mark Linimon <linimon at lonesome.com>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] SunFire V490 FTGH - Minneapolis/St. Paul
> Message-ID: <20201028034359.GA22457 at lonesome.com>
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> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 05:40:56PM -0500, William Barnett-Lewis wrote:
> > I have no 220 power either!
>
> The Superite AR-3000 110-to-220 converter served me well here for
> several years for running an IBM Power5. It was a similar deal,
> You had to read the manual *carefully* to see that "you need 220V
> if you want to use the 2-CPU-board configuration". Buried on page
> 25 or something.
>
> Of course, I recommend carefully checking amperage requirements
> before going this route.
>
> mcl
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 09:31:11 -0400
> From: Will Enestvedt <wenestvedt at gmail.com>
> To: Sun-Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] SunFire V490 FTGH - Minneapolis/St. Paul
> Message-ID: <3923DAAF-AC60-4E82-A734-2E51B6CD9ACB at gmail.com>
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> > Dave McGuire wrote: "V490 requires 220V?? Weird. I've had a number of
> V480s, nearly identical, all ran on 110."
> >
>
> We bought three V890s at one time, and the VAR didn't even realize that
> they
> wanted 208! We had already owned 280Rs, 480s, and 490s so I hadn't even
> thought to look it up.
>
> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19095-01/sfv890.srvr/816-1613-14/Chapter5.ht
> ml#23650
> <https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19095-01/sfv890.srvr/816-1613-14/Chapter5.html#23650>
>
> When they arrived and we unpacked them, we all just stood around staring
> at
> the weird-ass plugs on the power cords and blinking slowly for a minute
> before
> the realization hit. :7)
>
> Eventually I think we just had the campus electricians pull a bunch of
> extra
> circuits under the raised floor so we could line them up in a row to look
> cooler.
>
> - Will
> b
> Will Enestvedt
> "I mean, you can teach yourself, but I've found with a lot of things that
> I've taught myself that I needed a better professor." - P.J. Ob Rourke
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 08:35:59 -0600
> From: Bob Darlington <rdarlington at gmail.com>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] SunFire V490 FTGH - Minneapolis/St. Paul
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> The chart is clear they run on a range of voltages, all single phase. The
> electricians should've changed the plug. My data centers typically feed
> racks with 208 single phase. Most equipment we use (like a Dell monitor as
> an example) will plug into the wall at 120v, or 240v, or anything in
> between. Every residence in the usa has 240v single phase pulled to it
> with few exceptions.
>
> -Bob
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 7:31 AM Will Enestvedt <wenestvedt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dave McGuire wrote: "V490 requires 220V?? Weird. I've had a number of
> > V480s, nearly identical, all ran on 110."
> > >
> >
> > We bought three V890s at one time, and the VAR didn't even realize that
> > they
> > wanted 208! We had already owned 280Rs, 480s, and 490s so I hadn't even
> > thought to look it up.
> >
> > https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19095-01/sfv890.srvr/816-1613-14/Chapter5.ht
> > ml#23650
> > <
> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19095-01/sfv890.srvr/816-1613-14/Chapter5.html#23650
> >
> >
> > When they arrived and we unpacked them, we all just stood around
> staring
> > at
> > the weird-ass plugs on the power cords and blinking slowly for a minute
> > before
> > the realization hit. :7)
> >
> > Eventually I think we just had the campus electricians pull a bunch of
> > extra
> > circuits under the raised floor so we could line them up in a row to look
> > cooler.
> >
> > - Will
> > b
> > Will Enestvedt
> > "I mean, you can teach yourself, but I've found with a lot of things that
> > I've taught myself that I needed a better professor." - P.J. Ob Rourke
> > _______________________________________________
> > rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 10:28:31 -0500
> From: Doug McIntyre <merlyn at geeks.org>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] SunFire V490 FTGH - Minneapolis/St. Paul
> Message-ID: <20201028152831.GA2593 at geeks.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> In the Sun/cisco realm of things, more things were just 208V/240V only
> at random and out of the blue like the way this was found. Or like
> certain cisco switches all came 120V power supplies, until one number off
> found us having to support 208V only power supplies for the same switch
> model.
>
> While now-a-days, we'd wire up cabinets in our datacenters at 208V,
> for the first couple decades, we'd do 120V feeds almost exclusively,
> as we didn't have the really big boxes coming in, so when encountering
> the 208V required equipment, it was always a shuffle to get the
> electricians going. This was at a time too when IEC13/19 power strips
> weren't ubiquitous, so it was a bit more interesting and one-off to get the
> 208V required boxes to get powered in our field of 120V powered cabinets...
>
> Power distribution is still interesting, like the last odd requirement
> for a Dell Blade server that required 18kW of 208V power only on IEC21
> plugs. Uhhh..
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 08:35:59AM -0600, Bob Darlington wrote:
> > The chart is clear they run on a range of voltages, all single phase.
> The
> > electricians should've changed the plug. My data centers typically feed
> > racks with 208 single phase. Most equipment we use (like a Dell monitor
> as
> > an example) will plug into the wall at 120v, or 240v, or anything in
> > between. Every residence in the usa has 240v single phase pulled to it
> > with few exceptions.
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 7:31 AM Will Enestvedt <wenestvedt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > Dave McGuire wrote: "V490 requires 220V?? Weird. I've had a number
> of
> > > V480s, nearly identical, all ran on 110."
> > > >
> > >
> > > We bought three V890s at one time, and the VAR didn't even realize that
> > > they
> > > wanted 208! We had already owned 280Rs, 480s, and 490s so I hadn't even
> > > thought to look it up.
> > >
> > >
> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19095-01/sfv890.srvr/816-1613-14/Chapter5.ht
> > > ml#23650
> > > <
> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19095-01/sfv890.srvr/816-1613-14/Chapter5.html#23650
> >
> > >
> > > When they arrived and we unpacked them, we all just stood around
> staring
> > > at
> > > the weird-ass plugs on the power cords and blinking slowly for a minute
> > > before
> > > the realization hit. :7)
> > >
> > > Eventually I think we just had the campus electricians pull a bunch
> of
> > > extra
> > > circuits under the raised floor so we could line them up in a row to
> look
> > > cooler.
> > >
> > > - Will
> > > b
> > > Will Enestvedt
> > > "I mean, you can teach yourself, but I've found with a lot of things
> that
> > > I've taught myself that I needed a better professor." - P.J. Ob Rourke
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue
> > _______________________________________________
> > rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue
>
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