[rescue] Sun 3/80 resources

Tue Apr 26 00:32:04 EDT 2022

Sure Dan. Let me know offline where you want me to dump an ISO image.

-Kurt

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 23:09 Dan Moisa <dmoisa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Kurt - re: SunOS 4.1.1, if you can spare the bytes I can give
> you some online location you can drop the image itself, I managed to
> keep an old burner around. I never had original tapes, I just got some
> new old stock and wrote/read them right away. Somehow the band inside
> was still mostly OK.
>
> BTW - does anyone know who runs sun3arc? I'd really like to do
> something to help/contribute - even if it's to donate towards
> hosting/bandwidth/domain costs. I spent more time on that site than I
> can count.
>
> Dan.
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:59 PM Kurt Nowak <knowak at alumni.calpoly.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > That sounds a bit like my experience. USPS can be pretty brutal on
> package handling. Mine was clearly smashed so hard that the frame buffer
> came loose and was rattling around in the box and the main header on it
> ended up with a broken pin. Part of my plastic back bezel shattered into
> tiny pieces which I saved but not feeling like fixing it is high on my
> priority list. Looks good enough on my stack of other old Sun pizza boxes.
> >
> > I have firmware version 3.0.2 and the Sun3arc says it should boot with
> that one too. I realized that my CD rom drive died so that explains my
> problems. I just ordered another one on ebay, so we'll give it another shot
> when that arrives.
> >
> > Regarding QIC drives, I have always gone to
> http://www.terrysrubberrollers.com and had new ones made. Although they
> used to be cheaper and it seems like he is only doing it part time now due
> to Covid related health issues.  The cartridges are always the tricky part.
> I've had some success with the pastibands method per Curious Marcs videos
> but they feel a bit too snug. Its too bad someone cant make aftermarket
> bands to the same specs as the originals. All the Sun Tapes I have have
> sadly disintegrated with the oxide layer damaged. Fortunately the images
> are all available on the Sun3Arc.
> >
> > The copy I have is SunOS 4.1.1 for Sun3/x along with 4.1.1 Rev B for
> Sparc on the same disc. I'd be happy to burn you an image if you need one.
> >
> > -Kurt
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 8:31 PM Dan Moisa <dmoisa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the various responses.
> >>
> >> @Kurt the plastic is in "gone" shape. I got it off eBay and the seller
> >> literally put it in a box with no padding, it came shattered - even
> >> the metal frame was bent inside, the four legs don't all touch the
> >> ground. Fortunately it's the same metal/plastic/standoffs/etc as a
> >> SparcStation 1, so I did some swapping around, including managed to
> >> swap the logs between the two tops. For the back bezel, the trick was
> >> to put tons of superglue and then tape over - that left a smooth
> >> surface where the crack isn't as visible.
> >>
> >> Some internet page said it's down to the firmware, and apparently
> >> 3.0.3 should do it. Now that it boots (power supply was gone, patched
> >> in an ATX one until I feel like recapping) I'm starting to collect
> >> some software for it, I'll let you know how it goes/what runs. The
> >> 3/60 I ended up installing from tape - wrote a tape from the SS10 and
> >> was able to boot and install - ONCE. I literally tried again and the
> >> tape was destroyed, so I learned to snapshot the blank install
> >> immediately after I'm done with the tape in case I need to restore.
> >> Repairing the tape drive was also fun, turns out the best replacement
> >> material for the rubber wheels was silicon tubing. Magically the same
> >> OD and ID but stiffer, which is probably why the tapes don't last.
> >> That was somehow easier than net booting.
> >>
> >> Also, you probably meant "Copy of SunOS 4.1.4 for Sun3_x_". Could I
> >> maybe have a crack at it? I can only find 4.1.4 for Sparc, I thought
> >> sun3 stopped at 4.1.1U1
> >>
> >> @Doug the hardware seems to be pretty malleable. The 3/60 runs at
> >> 30mhz with some PALs and memory replaced with faster ones, but not
> >> rock solid. Ultra 10 can take an XVR-1000 with a custom case, nothing
> >> complains even a little. Let's see how far this 3/80 can go :)
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Dan.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 3:19 PM Doug McIntyre <merlyn at geeks.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 12:09:34PM -0700, Dan Moisa wrote:
> >> > > Meaning put in a faster oscillator. This worked in the 3/60 since
> >> > > every subsystem (serial, etc) is on it's own clock - works well at
> >> > > 25mhz with a 50mhz main oscillator for example.
> >> > ...
> >> >
> >> > I was amazed things worked when I tried putting different speed CPU
> modules into my SS10.
> >> > The MBUS is async clocked as well. It was totally unsupportable of
> course.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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