[rescue] Solaris 8 /9 patch server online / offline

[Peter Stokes]

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> On 19 Apr 2023, at 18:14, Chris Quayle via rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
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>> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 22:49:18 +0100
>> From: Peter Stokes <peter at ashlyn.co.uk>
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>> Subject: Re: [rescue] Solaris 8 /9 patch server online / offline
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>> Hi
>> I too have some some of the patch clusters from when we had a support contract.
>> If I remember correctly Unlike Sun, Oracle limited access to some of the older patch clusters. As stated they would shut down any non authorised server of their software.
>> As an illustration of how they use legal processes, in the EU/U.K. there is a a law which prevents folk importing and selling items from outside the EU/U.K., called grey imports. In this case this was Sun product brought in from the US etc. Exactly the same product as sold in the EU/U.K., just not originally sold here. Oracle have a list of what has/has not been sold here and if they find any trader selling grey parts new or used (even 20 years + old and of low value, think disk drive, card etc), they will throw the legal book at them. Result was hefty fine and trader has to check with Oracle that all parts sold are valid to be sold in EU/U.K. I know of at least one company who packed up trading because of it, others who became shadows of their former selfs. I assume Oracle have a team tasked with this. All in all a very different company to what Sun were and not a company I would choose to do business with.
>> Peter
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> Peter,
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> Iirc, the company in question was Tom Tobin's Acara, which shut down
> after that rule was brought in. Bought kit from them for many years,
> dating back to the days when they were primarily DEC Vax and PDP series
> machine related.
> 
> A great company and still missed...
> 
> Chris

Hi Chris

Yes, great couple Tom and Elda and their son Robert. Tom decided to close up when they had a warning letter and was worried the company would take a big hit as the building was owned by the company and was a part of their pension provision from memory. They were far from the first and for some it was very expensive from what I heard. This was 15 or so years ago, but have still heard of recent cases. I guess they view it as a source of revenue or justifying a groups existence?

Peter
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>>>> On 18 Apr 2023, at 16:39, David Brownlee via rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org> wrote:
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>>> ?On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 14:10, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
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>>>>> On 4/18/23 09:07, Rob Craig via rescue wrote:
>>>>> Darn. I hate Oracle so much. LOL
>>>> 
>>>>   Yes.  It's no laughing matter, I'm afraid.
>>>> 
>>>>> Does any have the full patches for Solaris 7,8,9 ? So at least I an have a local copy on my server for personal use for my machines.
>>>> 
>>>>   By "full patches" do you mean the recommended patch clusters, or
>>>> something else?  I have many of the clusters.
>>> 
>>> Presumably if someone had a support contract from Oracle which
>>> entitled them to all the patches, they could legitimately setup a
>>> local patch server, as long as they did not make it publicly available
>>> on the Internet?
>>> 
>>> On that assumption, someone could put together a tool which would
>>> verify a directory of patch files, and present them as a patch server
>>> - similar to how MAME, fs-usa and similar handle rom files.
>>> 
>>> That tool could legitimately be maintained and updated on github or
>>> similar, and used by anyone who had a set of patch files.
>>> 
>>> David
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>> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 20:05:33 -0500
>> From: Lionel Peterson <lionel4287 at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: [rescue] FTGH: 7 brand-new DLT IV tapes
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>> I have seven, brand-new Old-Stock DLT IV tapes available, just pay shipping
>> These are 40/80 GB storage tapes, Maxel brand and they've never been opened.
>> They are available for free, just cover actual postage (est under $15 ConUS).
>> I realize backing up 80 GB isn't that meaningful anymore, but if you running some old kit and want proper media, here you go.
>> No guarantees, I've held on to these tapes for 15+ years, it's time they found a new home...
>> If interested, please contact me off-list,
>> Ken
>> Lionel4287 at gmail.com
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