[rescue] Sun 3 keyboard/mouse options?

Steve Hatle steve.hatle at gmail.com
Mon Sep 11 21:47:57 EDT 2023


It appears Sun actually sold an adapter to use the Model 4 keyboard on 
the Sun 3, part numbers are

530-1478
530-1479

Same cable, different lengths. I've also found the pinouts to make my 
own; I have some 9-pin male shells and I'll probably liberate the female 
DIN-8 connector from a trashed keyboard to make the adapter.

I will start small with serial connection first. Will also need to 
research how to get this guy net-booted and eventually an install on a 
drive in the shoebox. I'm not holding out hope of getting anything done 
with the tape drive or tapes.




> Mouse via rescue <mailto:rescue at sunhelp.org>
> September 10, 2023 at 10:59 PM
>> Lucky me scored a 3/50 at VCFMW this weekend!
>> Unfortunately, there was no keyboard or mouse with the system. I
>> quick google didn't turn up any info on options/adapters/etc (though
>> I've only been home for a while and haven't really dug in yet).
> Its keyboard is a 1200 baud serial device, just using TTL voltage
> levels instead of RS-232 voltage levels, and it's a ridiculously simple
> protocol.  If you can get keyboard events off something else, and
> they're at even moderately similar, it's relatively easy to generate
> Sun keyboard protocol.
>
> I've heard it said that there are adapters between USB keyboard and Sun
> keyboard, but if you're looking for that you have to be careful _which_
> Sun keyboard; you want the Sun-3 or earlier Sun-4 keyboard, the one
> with the miniDIN-8 connector[%].  You also have to be careful which
> direction the adapter in question is designed to go: Sun keyboard on
> USB machine, or the other way around?
>
> [%] The -3/50 uses a DA-15, not a miniDIN-8.  But the Sun keyboards
> that speak DA-15 and the ones that speak miniDIN-8 are compatible
> enough that you can plug either kind of keyboard into the other kind of
> machine with nothing but a passive adapter.
>
>> Serial is of course an option, and likely how I'll start out once I
>> get everything cleaned up and inspected.
> It's what I'd suggest for the first few attempts, certainly.
>
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> Steve Hatle <mailto:steve.hatle at gmail.com>
> September 10, 2023 at 9:50 PM
> Lucky me scored a 3/50 at VCFMW this weekend!
>
> Unfortunately, there was no keyboard or mouse with the system. I quick 
> google didn't turn up any info on options/adapters/etc (though I've 
> only been home for a while and haven't really dug in yet).
>
> Serial is of course an option, and likely how I'll start out once I 
> get everything cleaned up and inspected.
>
> Hoping the monitor still has it's mojo going, but baby steps...
>
> Thanks for any info or advice,
>
> Steve

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