[rescue] Ultra 1 boot from install CD fails

Patrick Giagnocavo patrick at zill.net
Fri Apr 5 19:22:26 EDT 2024 

As dumb as it sounds, I have actually burned CD's at single or double speed only, not allowing the OS to go faster, and then had the CDR I burned work.  

If you have enough CDRs you could try that!

Cordially

Patrick

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From: "Todd Vernon via rescue" <rescue at sunhelp.org>
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Sent: Friday, April 5, 2024 4:37:57 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [rescue] Ultra 1 boot from install CD fails




Same result. It sounded like such a promising idea too! Thx for the suggestion. 


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On Apr 5, 2024 at 3:20 PM -0600, Jonathan Katz via rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org>, wrote: 



Wondering if you need a “boot -vr” since it’s not rebuilding the device tree? 



-Jon 
+44 7792 149029 





On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 at 22:15, Todd Vernon via rescue < rescue at sunhelp.org > wrote: 




Thanks for the reply. Yeah, the boot -v the only reason I know the last thing that prints out is "using default device instance data”. If you don’t use the -v you don’t see that message. 


I’ve done it with drag-switch true and false. I’ve watched the serial port for any other messages as well. 


-t 











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On Apr 5, 2024 at 2:59:02 PM, Johan van Zanten < johanvz978 at giantfoo.org > wrote: 





Hello, 

Back in the chain of replies, i think someone asked if you'd "booted the 
machine with the diag-switch" but i didn't see a reply. 

That's explained a bit on page number 37 "Controlling Power-on Self-test" 
of this: 

https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19457-01/801-7042/801-7042.pdf 

(Which counting from the start of the PDF is the 57th page.) 

"boot -v" might also reveal some more details around where it's hanging? 

best, johan 


Todd Vernon via rescue < rescue at sunhelp.org > wrote: 


The CD that im using were burned at home. Same for the NetBSD CD that works 


fine. The Iso files im using on Zulu have been used many times on my other 


Sun Workstations (all 32bit). Just to check I redownloaded another iso. 


Same thing. It’s 100% repeatable and always at exactly the same point be it 


2.7 or 7. Very strange. 





-t 








Todd Vernon 


Entrepreneur | Investor 


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LinkedIn:Â toddvernon 








On Apr 4, 2024 at 11:11:24 AM, William Barnett-Lewis via rescue 


< rescue at sunhelp.org > wrote: 


Are you using a Sun or home burned CD? I have had odd failures like 


this with a bad burn of an ISO. 





On Thu, Apr 4, 2024, 10:01 Todd Vernon via rescue 


< rescue at sunhelp.org > wrote: 


Agree that NetBSD is ignoring something that Solaris is 


not. I feel like the last message in the boot before it 


hangs is a clue, 


"using default device instance data†





Im not exactly sure what that means so I reset the IDProm 


and reprogrammed it using 80 as the machine type but no 


luck. Im not even completely sure that “default device 


instance data†is what is stored in there but some google 


searches seem to be tied to that. Â 





NetBSD boot seems completely normal with no warnings or 


messages I would not expect. Â 





I’ve moved all the sims around and removed different sets 


and like clockwork it always hangs at the same place so im 


pretty sure its not a memory issue. 





Im down to just the CDROM drive or just the Zulu to take 


everything else off the SCSI bus. It’s a head 


scratcher. 





Thanks for the reply! 





-t 














Todd Vernon 


Entrepreneur | Investor 


Email:Â todd at toddvernon.com 


LinkedIn:Â toddvernon 








On Apr 3, 2024 at 11:03:25 PM, vom513 via rescue 


< rescue at sunhelp.org > wrote: 


Apologies for asking the likely obvious - have 


you booted this machine with diag-switch and let 


it run through the tests ? 





Since you have tried real CDs as well as ZuluSCSI 


virtual, it sounds like perhaps something that 


Solaris is “touching†that NetBSD is not ? 





Have you actually tried to follow all the way 


through and install/run NetBSD ? 





I guess a hail mary would be to start removing 


hardware and components one by one and try a 


Solaris boot after each step. 





Sorry for the obvious things, just wanted to 


reply with what I would try. Â 





Please do let us know if you make progress or 


figure out the root cause. 


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