[rescue] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: off-topic but advice needed for the involuntary hardware upgrade for Win 11?

Mouse mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG
Wed Dec 25 18:30:47 EST 2024


> Theoretically, loosening the TPM standard will loosen security.

People tend to forget that, whenever you talk about "security", you
really should at least think about "security against what/whom?".

Personally, the kind of entities TPM is designed to trust - Microsoft
is a good example - are near the top of the list of entities I want to
be secure against.  In short, TPM does not provide any security I
actually want.

This, per se, is not directly relevant to the thread.  It's just
pointing out an illustration, by way of extreme example, of how close
to meaningless "loosen[ing] security" is without either context or
explicit mention of the relevant threat model.

> Apple drops hardware support at about the same pace as Microsoft, I
> don't see why this is such a hot bed issue for MS users.

Don't forget, Apple uses much tighter integration between software and
hardware.  Windows runs - or at least tries to run - on commodity
hardware.  (I'm not sure how that affects this issue, but I have
trouble imagining that it has no effect.)

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