[SPARCbook] SPARCBook Digest, Vol 51, Issue 1

Federico Lucifredi flucifredi at acm.org
Tue Oct 26 05:40:35 CDT 2021 

*abandonware.

> On Oct 25, 2021, at 4:11 AM, Federico Lucifredi <flucifredi at acm.org> wrote:
>
> I would be interested as well. By the way, the internet archive has an
> expanding babandonwareb section for software of vintage machines, and
this
> would likely qualify.
>
> Best-F
>
>> On Oct 23, 2021, at 6:24 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk>
wrote:
>>
>> I also have a collection of Sparcbook software if anyone ever needs the
>> archive.
>>
>> I sold my Sparcbook 3 a few years ago but regret that decision, they are a
>> wonderful example of Unix portability.
>>
>> Regards Mark
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021, 19:02 Liam, <liam1f at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I can confirm I used an old Apple connector and it was a direct fit. I
>>> didn't know the model number. The CDROM boots, as I recall, with 512
bytes
>>> per sector, which is the original 'single speed' which all others (24x,
>>> 48x, etc) are based on. I had/have several internal drives that I just
>>> power externally, and they have a jumper to select 1x.
>>>
>>> There was a converter board (ADTX?) that allowed the use of a larger IDE
>>> hard drive in the sled - I still have some, and gave one away to someone
>>> here several years ago, who wasn't even polite enough to confirm
receiving
>>> it! I have read about, bought, but never got round to using, CF card
>>> converters and PCMCIA boards. I also have SCSI2SD boards, which I bought
>>> for my long-lusted-after Tadpole Bullfrog, and again never got around to
>>> doing.
>>>
>>> I have a bit of a collection of SparcBook3s and peripherals. A
SparcBook2,
>>> an RDI Powerlite, a PreciscionBook (HP-UX), a couple of Voyager IIis, one
>>> still in the box, a Talin 15, a Talin 12, a P1000.... and a Naturetech
>>> which MIGHT be a 777S; I can't remember. I'll probably have batteries and
>>> external chargers somewhere too.
>>>
>>> I spent years collecting this stuff, and the people at Tadpole used to be
>>> great. When I was passing Cambridge, I would nip in for advice. Jan
> (Eden?)
>>> once even sorted me out circuit board component values to get a SB3
> damaged
>>> in transit from the US repaired. (Not by me, I might add.. I took it
apart
>>> and put it back together. Someone else did the dirty work).
>>>
>>> All this stuff really needs rehoming with someone who appreciates it, but
>>> I live in the UK and there's never seemed to be much of a following.
>>>
>>> Good luck with yours.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Liam
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 23 October 2021 at 18:00 sparcbook-request at sunhelp.org mailto:
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>>>>   1. SPARCbook 3 external SCSI connector. (Andrew Back) 2. Re:
>>> SPARCbook 3 external SCSI connector. (Bob Bramwell) 3. Re: SPARCbook 3
>>> external SCSI connector. (Andrew Back) 4. Re: SPARCbook 3 external SCSI
>>> connector. (Andrew Back)
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>>>> On 23 October 2021 at 11:20 Andrew Back <andrew at carrierdetect.com
>>> mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Hello,
>>>>
>>>>   Recently picked up a SPARCbook 3, would like to attach an external
>>> drive
>>>>   and need to source a cable. The connector looks to be a HDI-30, as
>>> once
>>>>   used on AppleB computers. Is this correct, with the same pinout and
>>> can
>>>>   I just use a cable sold for use with old PowerBooks?
>>>>
>>>>   Regards,
>>>>
>>>>   Andrew
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 23 October 2021 at 12:38 Bob Bramwell <stuff0001 at gmail.com mailto:
>>> stuff0001 at gmail.com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Hello Andrew,
>>>>
>>>>   Itb s been so longb& Ib m sorry, but I really donb t recall. The
>>>>   connector youb re talking about is about 1cm square, right? Looks
>>> like I
>>>>   asked if anyone wanted it back in 2009. Ib ll see if Ib ve still got
>>> it,
>>>>   but that is very doubtful. Ib ll let you know.
>>>>
>>>>   Best of luck,
>>>>   Bob.
>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2021, at 7:20 AM, Andrew Back <
>>> andrew at carrierdetect.com mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently picked up a SPARCbook 3, would like to attach an
>>> external drive
>>>>>       and need to source a cable. The connector looks to be a
>>> HDI-30, as once
>>>>>       used on AppleB computers. Is this correct, with the same
>>> pinout and can
>>>>>       I just use a cable sold for use with old PowerBooks?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew
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>>>
>>>> On 23 October 2021 at 12:42 Andrew Back <andrew at carrierdetect.com
>>> mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Hi Bob,
>>>>
>>>>   That's the one. 5 rows of 6 pins I think, and thanks!
>>>>
>>>>   It would be nice if it was the same pinout as an Apple cable, as
>>> those
>>>>   can be found on eBay.
>>>>
>>>>   Best,
>>>>
>>>>   Andrew
>>>>
>>>>   PS. On the off-chance you or anyone else has one, I'm also on the
>>>>   lookout for a battery pack for the SPARCbook 3. Dead is totally fine
>>> and
>>>>   can re-cell it. Mine didn't come with one, sadly.
>>>>
>>>>   On 23/10/2021 12:38, Bob Bramwell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Andrew,
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Itb s been so longb& Ib m sorry, but I really donb t recall.
>>> The
>>>>>
>>>>>> connector youb re talking about is about 1cm square, right?
>>> Looks like I
>>>>   asked if anyone wanted it back in 2009. Ib ll see if Ib ve still got
>>> it,
>>>>   but that is very doubtful. Ib ll let you know.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Best of luck,
>>>>>       Bob.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2021, at 7:20 AM, Andrew Back <
>>> andrew at carrierdetect.com mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently picked up a SPARCbook 3, would like to attach an
>>> external drive
>>>>>> and need to source a cable. The connector looks to be a HDI-30,
>>> as once
>>>>>> used on AppleB computers. Is this correct, with the same pinout
>>> and can
>>>>>> I just use a cable sold for use with old PowerBooks?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew
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>>>
>>>
>>>> On 23 October 2021 at 15:02 Andrew Back <andrew at carrierdetect.com
>>> mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Hi Kevin,
>>>>
>>>>   Thanks! ISTR something about Sun sector size being different, but in
>>> any
>>>>   case I have a Sun CDROM drive that I've previously used with an IPX,
>>> so
>>>>   should be good on that front.
>>>>
>>>>   I've also heard mention of people replaced the 2.5" SCSI HDD with a
>>>>   SCSI2SD "PowerBook Edition", but can't seem to find anyone online
>>> with
>>>>   these, apart from a vendor in Australia who has not responded to
>>> e-mail.
>>>>
>>>>   Regards,
>>>>
>>>>   Andrew
>>>>
>>>>   On 23/10/2021 13:35, kevin kociba wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew.
>>>>>       Congrats on the 3. They are getting hard to find! Yes thatb s
>>> a good old
>>>>>
>>>>>> apple PowerBook scsi! Are you looking to boot it from a external
>>> cd? If so,
>>>>   you are going to have to find either an old sun or early Panasonic
>>> made apple
>>>>   CD drives. SUN arch had an different boot sector on the OS cds, not
>>> all drives
>>>>   can boot them. Save you throwing cables drives and adapters around :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Andrew Back <
>>> andrew at carrierdetect.com mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> o;?Hi Bob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's the one. 5 rows of 6 pins I think, and thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be nice if it was the same pinout as an Apple cable, as
>>> those
>>>>>> can be found on eBay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS. On the off-chance you or anyone else has one, I'm also on the
>>>>>> lookout for a battery pack for the SPARCbook 3. Dead is totally
>>> fine and
>>>>>> can re-cell it. Mine didn't come with one, sadly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23/10/2021 12:38, Bob Bramwell wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Andrew,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Itb s been so longb& Ib m sorry, but I really donb t recall. The
>>>>>> connector youb re talking about is about 1cm square, right? Looks
>>> like I
>>>>>> asked if anyone wanted it back in 2009. Ib ll see if Ib ve still
>>> got it,
>>>>>> but that is very doubtful. Ib ll let you know.
>>>>>>> Best of luck,
>>>>>>> Bob.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2021, at 7:20 AM, Andrew Back <
>>> andrew at carrierdetect.com mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com >
>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Recently picked up a SPARCbook 3, would like to attach an
>>> external drive
>>>>>>>> and need to source a cable. The connector looks to be a HDI-30,
>>> as once
>>>>>>>> used on AppleB computers. Is this correct, with the same pinout
>>> and can
>>>>>>>> I just use a cable sold for use with old PowerBooks?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrew
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