[SPARCbook] SPARCBook Digest, Vol 51, Issue 1
Mark Wickens
mark at wickensonline.co.uk
Tue Oct 26 05:42:41 CDT 2021
That's a good idea Frederico, will look to get it up there.
Mark
On Tue, 26 Oct 2021, 11:40 Federico Lucifredi, <flucifredi at acm.org> wrote:
> *abandonware.
>
> > On Oct 25, 2021, at 4:11 AM, Federico Lucifredi <flucifredi at acm.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would be interested as well. By the way, the internet archive has an
> > expanding b abandonwareb section for software of vintage machines, and
> this
> > would likely qualify.
> >
> > Best-F
> >
> >> On Oct 23, 2021, at 6:24 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I also have a collection of Sparcbook software if anyone ever needs the
> >> archive.
> >>
> >> I sold my Sparcbook 3 a few years ago but regret that decision, they
> are a
> >> wonderful example of Unix portability.
> >>
> >> Regards Mark
> >>
> >> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021, 19:02 Liam, <liam1f at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I can confirm I used an old Apple connector and it was a direct fit. I
> >>> didn't know the model number. The CDROM boots, as I recall, with 512
> bytes
> >>> per sector, which is the original 'single speed' which all others (24x,
> >>> 48x, etc) are based on. I had/have several internal drives that I just
> >>> power externally, and they have a jumper to select 1x.
> >>>
> >>> There was a converter board (ADTX?) that allowed the use of a larger
> IDE
> >>> hard drive in the sled - I still have some, and gave one away to
> someone
> >>> here several years ago, who wasn't even polite enough to confirm
> receiving
> >>> it! I have read about, bought, but never got round to using, CF card
> >>> converters and PCMCIA boards. I also have SCSI2SD boards, which I
> bought
> >>> for my long-lusted-after Tadpole Bullfrog, and again never got around
> to
> >>> doing.
> >>>
> >>> I have a bit of a collection of SparcBook3s and peripherals. A
> SparcBook2,
> >>> an RDI Powerlite, a PreciscionBook (HP-UX), a couple of Voyager IIis,
> one
> >>> still in the box, a Talin 15, a Talin 12, a P1000.... and a Naturetech
> >>> which MIGHT be a 777S; I can't remember. I'll probably have batteries
> and
> >>> external chargers somewhere too.
> >>>
> >>> I spent years collecting this stuff, and the people at Tadpole used to
> be
> >>> great. When I was passing Cambridge, I would nip in for advice. Jan
> > (Eden?)
> >>> once even sorted me out circuit board component values to get a SB3
> > damaged
> >>> in transit from the US repaired. (Not by me, I might add.. I took it
> apart
> >>> and put it back together. Someone else did the dirty work).
> >>>
> >>> All this stuff really needs rehoming with someone who appreciates it,
> but
> >>> I live in the UK and there's never seemed to be much of a following.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck with yours.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers, Liam
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 23 October 2021 at 18:00 sparcbook-request at sunhelp.org mailto:
> >>> sparcbook-request at sunhelp.org wrote:
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> >>>> 1. SPARCbook 3 external SCSI connector. (Andrew Back) 2. Re:
> >>> SPARCbook 3 external SCSI connector. (Bob Bramwell) 3. Re: SPARCbook 3
> >>> external SCSI connector. (Andrew Back) 4. Re: SPARCbook 3 external SCSI
> >>> connector. (Andrew Back)
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 23 October 2021 at 11:20 Andrew Back <andrew at carrierdetect.com
> >>> mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> Recently picked up a SPARCbook 3, would like to attach an external
> >>> drive
> >>>> and need to source a cable. The connector looks to be a HDI-30, as
> >>> once
> >>>> used on AppleB computers. Is this correct, with the same pinout and
> >>> can
> >>>> I just use a cable sold for use with old PowerBooks?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 23 October 2021 at 12:38 Bob Bramwell <stuff0001 at gmail.com mailto:
> >>> stuff0001 at gmail.com > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello Andrew,
> >>>>
> >>>> Itb s been so longb& Ib m sorry, but I really donb t recall. The
> >>>> connector youb re talking about is about 1cm square, right? Looks
> >>> like I
> >>>> asked if anyone wanted it back in 2009. Ib ll see if Ib ve still got
> >>> it,
> >>>> but that is very doubtful. Ib ll let you know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best of luck,
> >>>> Bob.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 23, 2021, at 7:20 AM, Andrew Back <
> >>> andrew at carrierdetect.com mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Recently picked up a SPARCbook 3, would like to attach an
> >>> external drive
> >>>>> and need to source a cable. The connector looks to be a
> >>> HDI-30, as once
> >>>>> used on AppleB computers. Is this correct, with the same
> >>> pinout and can
> >>>>> I just use a cable sold for use with old PowerBooks?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Andrew
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> SPARCBook mailing list - SPARCBook at sunhelp.org mailto:
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> >>>>> http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 23 October 2021 at 12:42 Andrew Back <andrew at carrierdetect.com
> >>> mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Bob,
> >>>>
> >>>> That's the one. 5 rows of 6 pins I think, and thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> It would be nice if it was the same pinout as an Apple cable, as
> >>> those
> >>>> can be found on eBay.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew
> >>>>
> >>>> PS. On the off-chance you or anyone else has one, I'm also on the
> >>>> lookout for a battery pack for the SPARCbook 3. Dead is totally fine
> >>> and
> >>>> can re-cell it. Mine didn't come with one, sadly.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 23/10/2021 12:38, Bob Bramwell wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Hello Andrew,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Itb s been so longb& Ib m sorry, but I really donb t recall.
> >>> The
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> connector youb re talking about is about 1cm square, right?
> >>> Looks like I
> >>>> asked if anyone wanted it back in 2009. Ib ll see if Ib ve still got
> >>> it,
> >>>> but that is very doubtful. Ib ll let you know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Best of luck,
> >>>>> Bob.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2021, at 7:20 AM, Andrew Back <
> >>> andrew at carrierdetect.com mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com > wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Recently picked up a SPARCbook 3, would like to attach an
> >>> external drive
> >>>>>> and need to source a cable. The connector looks to be a HDI-30,
> >>> as once
> >>>>>> used on AppleB computers. Is this correct, with the same pinout
> >>> and can
> >>>>>> I just use a cable sold for use with old PowerBooks?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Andrew
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> SPARCBook mailing list - SPARCBook at sunhelp.org mailto:
> >>> SPARCBook at sunhelp.org
> >>>>>> http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 23 October 2021 at 15:02 Andrew Back <andrew at carrierdetect.com
> >>> mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Kevin,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks! ISTR something about Sun sector size being different, but in
> >>> any
> >>>> case I have a Sun CDROM drive that I've previously used with an IPX,
> >>> so
> >>>> should be good on that front.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've also heard mention of people replaced the 2.5" SCSI HDD with a
> >>>> SCSI2SD "PowerBook Edition", but can't seem to find anyone online
> >>> with
> >>>> these, apart from a vendor in Australia who has not responded to
> >>> e-mail.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew
> >>>>
> >>>> On 23/10/2021 13:35, kevin kociba wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Andrew.
> >>>>> Congrats on the 3. They are getting hard to find! Yes thatb s
> >>> a good old
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> apple PowerBook scsi! Are you looking to boot it from a external
> >>> cd? If so,
> >>>> you are going to have to find either an old sun or early Panasonic
> >>> made apple
> >>>> CD drives. SUN arch had an different boot sector on the OS cds, not
> >>> all drives
> >>>> can boot them. Save you throwing cables drives and adapters around
> :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Kevin
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Andrew Back <
> >>> andrew at carrierdetect.com mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com > wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> o;?Hi Bob,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's the one. 5 rows of 6 pins I think, and thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It would be nice if it was the same pinout as an Apple cable, as
> >>> those
> >>>>>> can be found on eBay.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Andrew
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> PS. On the off-chance you or anyone else has one, I'm also on the
> >>>>>> lookout for a battery pack for the SPARCbook 3. Dead is totally
> >>> fine and
> >>>>>> can re-cell it. Mine didn't come with one, sadly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 23/10/2021 12:38, Bob Bramwell wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hello Andrew,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Itb s been so longb& Ib m sorry, but I really donb t recall. The
> >>>>>> connector youb re talking about is about 1cm square, right? Looks
> >>> like I
> >>>>>> asked if anyone wanted it back in 2009. Ib ll see if Ib ve still
> >>> got it,
> >>>>>> but that is very doubtful. Ib ll let you know.
> >>>>>>> Best of luck,
> >>>>>>> Bob.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2021, at 7:20 AM, Andrew Back <
> >>> andrew at carrierdetect.com mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Recently picked up a SPARCbook 3, would like to attach an
> >>> external drive
> >>>>>>>> and need to source a cable. The connector looks to be a HDI-30,
> >>> as once
> >>>>>>>> used on AppleB computers. Is this correct, with the same pinout
> >>> and can
> >>>>>>>> I just use a cable sold for use with old PowerBooks?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Andrew
> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>> SPARCBook mailing list - SPARCBook at sunhelp.org mailto:
> >>> SPARCBook at sunhelp.org
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